ᐅ Open-Plan Kitchen Layout with Large Dining Area – Detailed Questions

Created on: 1 May 2015 11:50
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Bieber0815
Hi, we are planning a single-family home (urban villa), about 158 m² (1700 sq ft), with 5 rooms, no basement, and a double garage/workshop. We are quite clear about what we want and don’t want. However, we are especially thinking hard about the kitchen. More on that below.

Development plan/restrictions
--> In my opinion, these don’t really play a role here.

Homeowners’ requirements
1.) Semi-open kitchen without an island. Semi-open means open to the dining/living area, but not fully visible to guests sitting at the dining table. One corner should remain where dirty dishes or similar unattractive items can be stacked.
2.) In the living room, we would like to occasionally (about 4 times a year) set up a long dining table to host around 16 people. The couch area can serve as a table for seniors or children. So there is basically enough space; it’s about the finer details of the floor plan design.
3.) Two adults and two children live in the house. Meals are eaten at the dining table near the kitchen. Usually, about 8 seats are needed (rarely more).

House design
--> Design by the builder after consultations with us.

Specific questions/notes:
1.) The design shows a U-shaped kitchen. Our current kitchen furniture is already too small for an L-shape. Even with an L-kitchen, we would have more work surface and cabinet space than we do now. On the other hand, due to the windows, we would have to give up a 90 cm (36 inch) wall cabinet (a hanging cabinet where glasses are kept).
2.) The short wall section between the kitchen and living room (opposite the stairs) is too short for us. We want it longer so the kitchen isn’t so directly visible.
3.) The upper wall section… no idea.

Floor plan of a house with kitchen, living and dining area, entrance hall, utility room, study.

The top of the floor plan faces west. The terrace is located there.

Do you have any ideas or other helpful advice?
WildThing4 May 2015 08:53
If I were you, I would place a tall cabinet unit along the lower part of the plan and then design a two-row kitchen with a peninsula. This way, you could cook facing your guests, and the door to the terrace could be located between the two rows. The short wall section above would then need to be completely removed.

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With an "open" kitchen, you always have the "issue" that the kitchen is visible from the dining table… but you also face this with a "dining kitchen."
If you have nice tall cabinets, you probably won’t miss wall cabinets anymore. I could also imagine that you could store all your dishes and glasses on the back side of the peninsula, facing the dining table.
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Nadin
4 May 2015 10:33
We have a similar floor plan with an open kitchen. We are also considering installing a glass sliding door that can be closed as needed, so guests do not see any potential mess in the kitchen. According to our research, this costs around 3000 € (if you want it to look reasonably good). Also, you need the wall edges for it.

Best regards,
Nadin
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kbt09
5 May 2015 00:09
In the case of Bieber, however, the wall panels are not sufficient. And glass doors to make the chaos invisible?
Umbau-Susi5 May 2015 00:26
That works really well ☺. We have a printed one that lets light through but keeps the kitchen mess out of sight. I have already photographed it for a similar post here before. Let’s see if I can find it quickly. By the way, our glass sliding door did not cost 3000€ (about 3200 USD). However, it slides along the wall rather than into the wall.

Sylvia
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Bieber0815
6 May 2015 00:17
@Computersylvia, would you happen to feel like posting a new photo that shows a bit more? At first glance, I find it very well done, although the space on the wall is needed.

Our favorite is the semi-open layout with one full wall on the lower floor plan and open on the upper floor. The exit to the terrace is centrally located in the living-dining area. Only one external door is desired here.

The kitchen planning is still pending; we will have to see.
Umbau-Susi6 May 2015 09:12
What exactly would you like to see? If possible, I can take a photo of the desired perspective again this evening.
For now, I need to earn my mortgage payment first.