Hello dear members,
Just registered and already have my first question. A brief introduction about us: we are 34 and 30 years old, no children and none planned. We don’t know what the future holds in a few years.
We plan to start building our house, hopefully if the winter weather cooperates, as soon as we finalize the floor plan. Unfortunately, I, Michaela, tend to be a perfectionist (symmetry, etc.). I can’t let it go and want everything to be well thought out and planned, which is starting to annoy me as well.
Since we are building rather small, aiming for about 114 m2 (1227 sq ft) of living space and trying not to compromise on anything at this size, the floor plan design is quite challenging. Among other things, we do not want all rooms to be accessible from the hallway, and we also want to keep a covered terrace. The bungalow will consist of only three rooms. Therefore, we want to keep the option open to convert the attic later if needed. In this context, we are planning space for a future space-saving staircase and the necessary preliminary work; at least that is the goal. The bungalow will have a hip roof, with the roof pitch increased from 30 degrees to 34 degrees, and the hallway correspondingly larger. Ideally, we would like a gable dormer. Since those are too expensive, a skylight window would be a compromise. Of course, a larger bungalow would be the best option but it is too costly. The construction company charges about 700.00 euros per m2. In hindsight, working with an architect might have been more cost-effective, but that is how it is and that is not what this is about.
Maybe you have ideas, suggestions, can give tips, or share what we should pay attention to or consider.
I am of course attaching the floor plan. I hope that something can still be recognized despite the manual changes.
I look forward to reading your replies and wish you a nice weekend.
Best regards,
Michaela
Just registered and already have my first question. A brief introduction about us: we are 34 and 30 years old, no children and none planned. We don’t know what the future holds in a few years.
We plan to start building our house, hopefully if the winter weather cooperates, as soon as we finalize the floor plan. Unfortunately, I, Michaela, tend to be a perfectionist (symmetry, etc.). I can’t let it go and want everything to be well thought out and planned, which is starting to annoy me as well.
Since we are building rather small, aiming for about 114 m2 (1227 sq ft) of living space and trying not to compromise on anything at this size, the floor plan design is quite challenging. Among other things, we do not want all rooms to be accessible from the hallway, and we also want to keep a covered terrace. The bungalow will consist of only three rooms. Therefore, we want to keep the option open to convert the attic later if needed. In this context, we are planning space for a future space-saving staircase and the necessary preliminary work; at least that is the goal. The bungalow will have a hip roof, with the roof pitch increased from 30 degrees to 34 degrees, and the hallway correspondingly larger. Ideally, we would like a gable dormer. Since those are too expensive, a skylight window would be a compromise. Of course, a larger bungalow would be the best option but it is too costly. The construction company charges about 700.00 euros per m2. In hindsight, working with an architect might have been more cost-effective, but that is how it is and that is not what this is about.
Maybe you have ideas, suggestions, can give tips, or share what we should pay attention to or consider.
I am of course attaching the floor plan. I hope that something can still be recognized despite the manual changes.
I look forward to reading your replies and wish you a nice weekend.
Best regards,
Michaela
Michaela198629 Jul 2017 11:48Hello Karsten,
somehow everything I wrote earlier has disappeared.
A very brief summary: We really need to reconsider the spiral staircase, even though I don’t want one. But if that would be an option, why not.
,,Extend the guest room wall due to the staircase, remove the cut-off edge. Real corner. Access to the room possibly under the stairs from the hallway." We had already thought about the idea of a door under the stairs, but didn’t know how to explain it during the planning meeting. However, I can’t quite picture what you mean right now—I’m a bit lost.
We will definitely put the tip about the heating circuit distributor into practice. We have the same problem in our current apartment. The distributor is located in the storage room. The storage room is immediately on the right when entering the apartment. As a result, the storage room is always very warm while the other rooms, especially the kitchen, tend to be quite cool.
When I think of country living, I always associate it with fields, rabbits, chickens, sheep, and so on on the farm, or the eggs from the friendly farmer nearby. We also doubt that a Mrs. Hansen with a small bottle of liquor will come by, although that would be nice. Nowadays, people usually make appointments weeks in advance if they want to drop by. But maybe that will change.
We also once sketched a type of terrace but decided against it again because we couldn’t really imagine it in practice.
Since we would like to take a look at your floor plan but can’t find it, we would appreciate it if you could share it with us. It was mentioned that it’s worth taking a look at yours, and we would like to do just that.
somehow everything I wrote earlier has disappeared.
A very brief summary: We really need to reconsider the spiral staircase, even though I don’t want one. But if that would be an option, why not.
,,Extend the guest room wall due to the staircase, remove the cut-off edge. Real corner. Access to the room possibly under the stairs from the hallway." We had already thought about the idea of a door under the stairs, but didn’t know how to explain it during the planning meeting. However, I can’t quite picture what you mean right now—I’m a bit lost.
We will definitely put the tip about the heating circuit distributor into practice. We have the same problem in our current apartment. The distributor is located in the storage room. The storage room is immediately on the right when entering the apartment. As a result, the storage room is always very warm while the other rooms, especially the kitchen, tend to be quite cool.
When I think of country living, I always associate it with fields, rabbits, chickens, sheep, and so on on the farm, or the eggs from the friendly farmer nearby. We also doubt that a Mrs. Hansen with a small bottle of liquor will come by, although that would be nice. Nowadays, people usually make appointments weeks in advance if they want to drop by. But maybe that will change.
We also once sketched a type of terrace but decided against it again because we couldn’t really imagine it in practice.
Since we would like to take a look at your floor plan but can’t find it, we would appreciate it if you could share it with us. It was mentioned that it’s worth taking a look at yours, and we would like to do just that.
Nordlys schrieb:
My two cents. I’ll leave the basic concept unchanged since it’s your bungalow, not mine. Leave the guest bathroom as it is. It’s not too large when equipped with a shower. And when you really have visitors, it will be used as a bathroom, right? So it can also be the modest 6 square meters (approximately 65 square feet) it is.
Hallway. Swap the door and the existing element. Then install a quarter-turn staircase along the wall next to the door leading up to the floor. This completely replaces the floor hatch. Upstairs, a small foyer, door, floor covered with spruce boards, two skylights (Velux), electricity, lighting – and the basement replacement is done. The roof trusses then with attic trusses. With a 35-degree pitch and identical base dimensions, we have the same setup, and the space up there is huge. Easy to walk on, fully usable. Install the heating circuit distributor under the stairs; it belongs centrally, not at the edge. Saves money, shorter piping routes.
Now extend the guest room wall because of the staircase; remove the cut-off edge. Create a real corner. Access to the room could be possible under the stairs from the hallway. I find that better for a guest room than access from the living room. But that’s a matter of opinion. Utility room. The heating circuit distributor is gone. Now put the washing machine and a sink for dirty laundry here. So, install a worktop along the wall with the machine underneath, a cheap sink, and a cheap faucet. That’s your place to rinse off dirty, sandy, fishy stuff, etc. Where the washing machine currently is, install a back door. You will love it. You’ll hardly use the front door anymore. Coming from outside, boots full of mud, dirty paws... Back door. Mrs. Hansen next door comes over for a little liqueur, back door... The front door is only for the mayor and bailiff.
Living room: it would be cheaper to replace the covered patio corner with a diagonal cut-off edge element, without losing much outside, and even gaining a bit inside.
See example picture.
Karsten
I can’t take the second half seriously.
Regards, Yvonne
Michaela198629 Jul 2017 11:52Hello Yvonne, which second half are you referring to now?
Best regards,
Michaela
Best regards,
Michaela
Michaela198629 Jul 2017 12:08And if anyone has any "creative" ideas, feel free to share them. What bothers us a bit is the size of the third room, especially if it is later intended to be a child’s bedroom. That’s why we are also considering converting the attic. My partner is still worried about the size of the terrace. He thinks it’s too small. Of course, it would be great if it were bigger, but that would take away more living space. And while I’m writing this: does anyone have a double-leaf terrace door with a width of 180cm (71 inches)? We are only used to 200cm (79 inches) doors and find those very nice. Someone also mentioned that the bedroom might have too little window space. Could you use a double-leaf window and keep the sill height relatively low instead? Does anyone have such windows? We don’t really want standard windows.
So many questions……
So many questions……
Michaela1986 schrieb:
We doubt that a Mrs. Hansen will drop by with a little liqueur, although that would be nice. That depends on whether there are indigenous people still living on the specific land or just a mix of city dwellers from all directions. In circles of standard German speakers, hardly anyone chats (and the liqueur is store-bought, so just like any other).
I see you now have an avatar picture. Is that the inspiring basic type (119 or 146)?
Expanded clay aggregate is fine; some companies build with masonry, others with wall panels – that could explain the unusual dimensions.
The questionnaire can be found here: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-unbedingt-vor-Beitrag-Erstellung-lesen.11714/
The floor plan from Nordlys is available here: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Grundriss-Bungalow-140-qm.24628/#post-208553
I can’t find the one from Evolith at the moment, but it’s worth a look – both are also in the house pictures thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/hausbilder-Thread.14011/page-112 and then just scroll back a bit; both are from the last six months.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
The second half of the quote: nobody needs an additional sink next to the kitchen, and even less so a main entrance only to be carried out feet first later on. And that chamfered corner... such a canopy measuring maximally 2 x 2 meters (6.5 x 6.5 feet) certainly does not deliver what it promises in the West: any smoker locked out will end up standing wet against the house wall. A chamfer only looks good when the entire house is designed around it, for example with a wall length of at least 5 meters (16.5 feet).
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