Hello,
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
- currently still renting
- currently a customer of Telekom (internet + phone)
- already owner of an undeveloped plot of land (not yet connected to utilities)
- construction contract signed with general contractor, planned start of construction mid-March, guaranteed construction period ~ 6 months, so move-in expected around September, more likely October
- all electrical work included in the construction contract, no owner-provided work specified
- number of sockets, network outlets, etc., according to the construction contract very few, so we will need to add quite a few
- no basement
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
- Upon inquiry, Deutsche Glasfaser told me that construction work in the community is planned to start in the coming weeks but will last a few months, so our connection will probably only be activated by the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020. If they are not ready by the time our other utilities (gas, water...) are connected to the house, they advise us to pre-install an empty conduit from the property boundary to the utility room as a preparatory measure. What would be the best solution in the meantime? We will move in in September/October. Assuming DG’s construction takes longer than planned, we would be in our nice new house without TV/television/phone.
Should we first continue ordering internet/TV connections from Telekom during our construction? Our contract there is still valid anyway. Although the connection would cost about 800 EUR, I would get the later DG TV connection free of charge.
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SenorRaul719 Feb 2019 20:52Ceiling outlets for ceiling lights should ideally be communicated to the construction company this week. This would likely also include the ceiling outlets for the access points (APs).
I took a look at the additional price list for the electrical installation trade. Of course, some outlets, double sockets, and network sockets, etc. are already included in the basic construction price, but the quantity is far from sufficient. Here are some of the additional prices:
I took a look at the additional price list for the electrical installation trade. Of course, some outlets, double sockets, and network sockets, etc. are already included in the basic construction price, but the quantity is far from sufficient. Here are some of the additional prices:
- Flush-mounted ceiling/wall outlet: 40 Euro
- Outlet with switching/control switching: 80/87 Euro, whatever that means
- Double socket outlet: 65 Euro
- Supply line up to 10 meters (33 feet) for garden lighting including switching: 190 Euro
- CAT7 connection cable with CAT6 sockets on both ends: 120 Euro
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Obstlerbaum19 Feb 2019 21:06Just out of curiosity: how many Ethernet outlets do you have at home? We both work from home and have exactly eight wired network devices throughout the house. This includes IP phones and two access points. If our child ever gets a laptop, that will add one more device...
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SenorRaul719 Feb 2019 21:28Obstlerbaum schrieb:
Just out of curiosity: how many Ethernet outlets do you have at home? We both work from home and have exactly eight wired network devices throughout the house, including IP phones and two access points. If our child gets a laptop someday, that will be one more device...Currently, in our three-room apartment, only the router is connected to the DSL socket in the home office. From the router, only the PC and PlayStation are connected via LAN cable. Everything else (TV, printer, laptop) is connected via Wi-Fi.
Obstlerbaum schrieb:
Just out of curiosity: how many Ethernet outlets do you have at home? Both of us work from home, and we have exactly eight wired network devices throughout the house, including IP phones and two access points. If our child gets a laptop someday, that will add one more device...For me, it’s: NAS, access point, CCU2, 2x Raspberry Pi, TV, PC, network printer. I have a few more outlets than devices. Since I have to install everything surface-mounted, I only set up what I need.
Attached is a picture of my switch. The patch panels are already 10 years old. I started with just 8 ports. I need to organize the patch cables to make them shorter. Everything is currently mounted in a wooden frame. A proper network cabinet is definitely recommended, but I haven’t found a suitable one for myself, so I built my own.
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SenorRaul720 Feb 2019 08:10I’ll briefly summarize, divided into the relevant areas, what I need to pay attention to (based on information found here or through googling). Please correct me if I forget something or misunderstand any details.
TV:
Regardless of how quickly Deutsche Glasfaser actually starts their rollout here, have a satellite dish installed on the roof or the side of the house. Run coaxial cabling from the satellite dish to the living room, guest room, 2 children’s rooms, and bedroom. Are those separate wall outlets? Or are they somehow connected to the other outlets for other connections (see below)?
Once we can receive IPTV from Deutsche Glasfaser, this will run over the LAN cabling, so we will basically have the option to switch between technologies for watching TV by simply plugging in different cables.
Internet:
Since it is unclear how fast Deutsche Glasfaser will provide their fiber connection, initially install a standard cable or DSL connection from the property boundary to the utility room. At the same time, as recommended by Deutsche Glasfaser, bury a conduit as a preparation from the property boundary to the utility room during this process.
One double outlet means I can connect up to two devices via LAN cable at each outlet, correct?
What kind of outlets should I use? It doesn’t need to be high-end technology, but it should fully support the contracted fiber speed (400,000) and be future-proof.
I’m still unclear about the outdoor area. How and where should I run a cable there? Should it be installed on an exterior wall where an access point can later be mounted?
TV:
Regardless of how quickly Deutsche Glasfaser actually starts their rollout here, have a satellite dish installed on the roof or the side of the house. Run coaxial cabling from the satellite dish to the living room, guest room, 2 children’s rooms, and bedroom. Are those separate wall outlets? Or are they somehow connected to the other outlets for other connections (see below)?
Once we can receive IPTV from Deutsche Glasfaser, this will run over the LAN cabling, so we will basically have the option to switch between technologies for watching TV by simply plugging in different cables.
Internet:
Since it is unclear how fast Deutsche Glasfaser will provide their fiber connection, initially install a standard cable or DSL connection from the property boundary to the utility room. At the same time, as recommended by Deutsche Glasfaser, bury a conduit as a preparation from the property boundary to the utility room during this process.
- Utility room: From there, install CAT7 structured cabling: cables to the living room, study, possibly also kitchen, 2 children’s rooms, bedroom, upper gallery, and outdoor area?!
- Living room/Kitchen: 2-3 double Ethernet outlets near the TV; a ceiling outlet in the middle of the room for an access point (make sure it supports PoE)
- Study/Guest room: 2-3 double Ethernet outlets
- Upper gallery: Ceiling outlet as centrally as possible for an access point
- 2× Children’s rooms: 1-2 double Ethernet outlets each
- Bedroom: 1-2 double Ethernet outlets
Router from Telekom/Deutsche Glasfaser
24-port switch
Patch panel?? I don’t yet understand the difference or relationship with the switch
One double outlet means I can connect up to two devices via LAN cable at each outlet, correct?
What kind of outlets should I use? It doesn’t need to be high-end technology, but it should fully support the contracted fiber speed (400,000) and be future-proof.
I’m still unclear about the outdoor area. How and where should I run a cable there? Should it be installed on an exterior wall where an access point can later be mounted?
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