Hello fellow home builders,
We are currently planning the electrical installation for our new build, including LAN and telephone connections. I have already read a lot but haven’t found a satisfactory answer for our exact situation online. Your assessment would be very helpful:
We have a utility room in the basement where, naturally, the phone line from the telecom provider enters. If I understand correctly, a telecom standard telephone outlet (TAE socket) is always installed there? And the line belongs to the telecom provider up to that point?
We want to install the network wiring in the utility room, but the router is planned to be located on the ground floor. We have a spot where we are quite sure there will be Wi-Fi coverage where it’s needed. So we planned to install a power outlet and four LAN ports there. One port would bring the signal from the TAE socket in the basement to the router, and three would go back down to the patch panel/switch. Essentially, I would prefer to run a cable from the telephone outlet to the patch panel and then up to the router.
My main question is: Is this possible? Can a network cable carry the two-wire DSL signal, and if so, which adapters would I need? How should the two wires be connected to the patch panel?
Or is our electrician right in saying that we need an (additional) TAE socket where the router will be? According to him, everything else would be complicated and require a custom cable... We would actually like to avoid having a TAE socket on the ground floor, both for aesthetic reasons and flexibility (maybe the router will be moved at some point).
Thanks for your help and experiences...
Good luck, Björn
We are currently planning the electrical installation for our new build, including LAN and telephone connections. I have already read a lot but haven’t found a satisfactory answer for our exact situation online. Your assessment would be very helpful:
We have a utility room in the basement where, naturally, the phone line from the telecom provider enters. If I understand correctly, a telecom standard telephone outlet (TAE socket) is always installed there? And the line belongs to the telecom provider up to that point?
We want to install the network wiring in the utility room, but the router is planned to be located on the ground floor. We have a spot where we are quite sure there will be Wi-Fi coverage where it’s needed. So we planned to install a power outlet and four LAN ports there. One port would bring the signal from the TAE socket in the basement to the router, and three would go back down to the patch panel/switch. Essentially, I would prefer to run a cable from the telephone outlet to the patch panel and then up to the router.
My main question is: Is this possible? Can a network cable carry the two-wire DSL signal, and if so, which adapters would I need? How should the two wires be connected to the patch panel?
Or is our electrician right in saying that we need an (additional) TAE socket where the router will be? According to him, everything else would be complicated and require a custom cable... We would actually like to avoid having a TAE socket on the ground floor, both for aesthetic reasons and flexibility (maybe the router will be moved at some point).
Thanks for your help and experiences...
Good luck, Björn
Sascha aus H25 Feb 2017 19:25Hi, this is definitely possible and I have already implemented it in two houses.
You need an adapter for the ground floor. Just search for "RJ45 to TAE" – you should take the first result on Amazon, then you’ll know what I mean.
For the LAN cable, you only need the two middle wires. From the TAE socket in the basement to the patch panel, then reroute the signal to the ground floor there.
You need an adapter for the ground floor. Just search for "RJ45 to TAE" – you should take the first result on Amazon, then you’ll know what I mean.
For the LAN cable, you only need the two middle wires. From the TAE socket in the basement to the patch panel, then reroute the signal to the ground floor there.
Where the house entry point from the telecom provider is located, they also install an optical line terminal (OLT), which, simply put, is a house distribution point. From there, once a connection is ordered, they route it to a TAE socket (telephone connection outlet). This "first" socket, also called the "monopole socket," marks the transition point—before this, you should not connect anything; this is where you plug in your router.
In the room where this arrives, I would also arrange the private internal distribution for the house. Using so-called patch panels, you can organize your cabling in a modern way. The cabling is done "structured," meaning, among other things, that you lay eight-conductor cables with all wires connected (telephony requires two, ISDN or Ethernet uses four different wires, Gigabit Ethernet uses all eight). This way, it does not matter later which socket is used for what purpose or when.
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In the room where this arrives, I would also arrange the private internal distribution for the house. Using so-called patch panels, you can organize your cabling in a modern way. The cabling is done "structured," meaning, among other things, that you lay eight-conductor cables with all wires connected (telephony requires two, ISDN or Ethernet uses four different wires, Gigabit Ethernet uses all eight). This way, it does not matter later which socket is used for what purpose or when.
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That is far too complicated. Place the router in the basement and run the connections to the patch panel using short cables. If you need to supply more than four outlets, you can add a switch next to it. For Wi-Fi, simply connect a secondary access point to any outlet in your apartment.
Thank you very much for your answer,
Sascha aus H
Maybe I’m just not getting it, but what exactly is the purpose of the specified adapter? My router has an RJ45 socket, so I thought I could simply use a short patch cable to connect the sockets on the router and the wall...
As I understand you, that should work fine if I properly wire from the TAE socket to the patch panel, right? For this connection, the already existing cable from the TAE to the FritzBox should work as well, shouldn’t it? So basically, directly from the telephone socket to the patch panel port that connects to the router input?
Sascha aus H
Maybe I’m just not getting it, but what exactly is the purpose of the specified adapter? My router has an RJ45 socket, so I thought I could simply use a short patch cable to connect the sockets on the router and the wall...
As I understand you, that should work fine if I properly wire from the TAE socket to the patch panel, right? For this connection, the already existing cable from the TAE to the FritzBox should work as well, shouldn’t it? So basically, directly from the telephone socket to the patch panel port that connects to the router input?
Sascha aus H25 Feb 2017 20:49Sorry, I just noticed my typo now. The adapter was meant to simply connect the TAE to the patch panel. You can do it without the adapter, but then you have to hardwire it. You ask the electrician to wire standard Cat7 with all 8 conductors; not all of them will carry a signal (which is completely normal and not a problem).
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