ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
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R.Hotzenplotz26 Jul 2018 09:03We will see how many euros are involved. In total, the money is for about 17cm (7 inches) in height. However, no matter how you look at it, it can’t be done anymore because the crucial width is no longer achievable.
I would estimate the compensation from the general contractor to be higher. It’s really about the costs required to bring the work back to the contractual condition. That can quickly add up to 20,000+.
I will get a second legal opinion shortly and then make a decision once the costs are hopefully available this afternoon.
We are also having the sand-lime brick wall in the master bathroom removed and replaced with drywall. That costs around €3,000 but unfortunately it’s necessary since we only learned after installation that an in-wall mirror cabinet with concealed plumbing can only be installed in drywall construction.
I would estimate the compensation from the general contractor to be higher. It’s really about the costs required to bring the work back to the contractual condition. That can quickly add up to 20,000+.
I will get a second legal opinion shortly and then make a decision once the costs are hopefully available this afternoon.
We are also having the sand-lime brick wall in the master bathroom removed and replaced with drywall. That costs around €3,000 but unfortunately it’s necessary since we only learned after installation that an in-wall mirror cabinet with concealed plumbing can only be installed in drywall construction.
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R.Hotzenplotz26 Jul 2018 10:03Apparently, yes. The expert agrees with this. We had to provide the expert with a so-called bearing support. It measures 12cm (5 inches), and he says that, well, there is nothing that can be done.
This afternoon, a second lawyer will visit the construction site, who I believe is even more knowledgeable on the subject, and will give me a second opinion.
I think it’s great that they will take a look on site as well!!
This afternoon, a second lawyer will visit the construction site, who I believe is even more knowledgeable on the subject, and will give me a second opinion.
I think it’s great that they will take a look on site as well!!
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I think it’s great when they come to take a look on site!!Yes, I’d like that.The question now is what you consider disproportionate. Before I end up hating the whole house because of it, I might add a steel support beam somewhere if it helps. On the other hand, many things are quickly forgotten once you actually live in the house.
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R.Hotzenplotz26 Jul 2018 11:54kaho674 schrieb:
The question now is what you consider disproportionate.They didn’t even provide me with a calculation because they say it isn’t economically justifiable. As I mentioned, the contact has unfortunately not been very cooperative either.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
They didn’t even provide a calculation for me because they said it isn’t economically justifiable. And I agree with them. Period.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
since we only found out after installation that a recessed mirror cabinet can’t be installed there, as that’s only possible with drywall construction. In some cases, I feel that people can take the naïveté of non-experts a bit too far.
In the scope of work, the drawings were part of the contract documents, and the lawyer’s legal opinion is based solely on the written text. At the latest in the third instance, the case will reach a judge who, either personally or through expert assessment, will provide enough technical knowledge to point out that construction drawings always show rough opening dimensions unless explicitly stated otherwise.
Structurally, neither an increase in height upwards or downwards is possible, and widening could only be done with disproportionate effort and, in my estimation, by no more than 12 cm (6 cm per side). So, accept the dimensions as they are.
And don’t expect any financial “compensation” for having to take it as originally ordered. At best, this will end in a settlement—and until then, your child will have already chosen between French or Latin; it won’t happen any sooner.
The biggest win I see for you is that the general contractor might offer you a special price for the retrofitting of the bedroom window you forgot, in exchange for settling the dispute over the window.
This window will probably remain a classic case in the forum’s history, whenever someone needs a clear example of the quality difference between an in-house architect and one provided by the general contractor.
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