Hello,
We are planning to build soon, and since we only want to build once (we hope so [emoji6]), we wanted to do a bit of the work ourselves.
Now my questions:
We want to build the interior walls of the upper floor ourselves, preferably using masonry!
I was thinking of building one row of Ytong blocks (25-30cm (10-12 inches) thick) per wall first, then having the construction company install the underfloor heating and pour the screed. Once the screed is dry, I would complete building the walls.
What do you think about this idea?
Building masonry directly on the screed is not ideal, right?
Another option would be drywall construction, but we prefer solid masonry walls!
Hope you can help us.
Best regards,
OneP
We are planning to build soon, and since we only want to build once (we hope so [emoji6]), we wanted to do a bit of the work ourselves.
Now my questions:
We want to build the interior walls of the upper floor ourselves, preferably using masonry!
I was thinking of building one row of Ytong blocks (25-30cm (10-12 inches) thick) per wall first, then having the construction company install the underfloor heating and pour the screed. Once the screed is dry, I would complete building the walls.
What do you think about this idea?
Building masonry directly on the screed is not ideal, right?
Another option would be drywall construction, but we prefer solid masonry walls!
Hope you can help us.
Best regards,
OneP
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Goldi0911114 Feb 2017 21:59I am now convinced that with drywall construction, depending on the wall thickness, better soundproofing can be achieved. Unless you want to build 36.5cm (14.4 inches) interior walls with masonry.
Goldi09111 schrieb:
I am now convinced that drywall construction can provide better soundproofing depending on the wall thickness—unless you want to build 36.5cm (14.4 inches) interior walls with masonry.Do you mean the 10cm (4 inches) aluminum profiles, the soundproof plasterboards from Knauf, and acoustic panels as insulation?
Knallkörper schrieb:
Of course, solid walls are better. Sometimes things are just that simple.
However, the walls should be installed right after completing the shell construction, for example, during the roofing phase. The plastering comes before the screed, and prior to that, the preliminary installation of electrical and plumbing systems will take place. I assume you want power, water, and plaster on the interior walls as well.Yes, but pipes and such can also be installed after laying the screed! That shouldn’t be a problem! Water pipes and bathroom drainage pipes would already be in place, and mainly it would be about pulling electrical cables, which can be routed along the sloped roof before installing the drywall panels.
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Knallkörper14 Feb 2017 22:16OneP89 schrieb:
Yes, but you can also install the pipes after the screed! That shouldn’t be a problem! Water pipes and the bathroom drain pipe would already be in place; mainly, you would need to pull electrical cables, which can be routed over the sloped ceiling before it is covered with drywall.
Why would you want to do that? I don’t think it’s proper practice. According to VDE standards, there are specific installation zones for electrical cables. Water pipes are also installed on the concrete slab—below the insulation, under the underfloor heating, beneath the screed. You don’t add pipes there afterward.
Drywall construction can be done, but it needs to be double-layered and insulated on the inside. The downside is that very little heat or cold is stored, and cracks will likely develop at the connections to the solid walls.
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Bieber081515 Feb 2017 08:37I think bricklaying is actually a rewarding DIY task. It would almost be the only part of the work that I would personally enjoy (and that I could reasonably manage ... :rolleyes 🙂.
It is undisputed, in my opinion, that the interior walls are built together with the shell construction, completely, before the rough-in of plumbing and electrical installations. Anything else doesn’t make sense...
Which type of block is used for the exterior walls? I would base the choice of interior walls on that. Otherwise, I suggest considering calcium silicate blocks. With the "right" shell contractor or house builder, I would coordinate the connection of the interior walls to the exterior walls in advance. You will need help for the door lintels. Maybe the contractor can lay the first row, and you can build up from there. That obviously reduces the potential savings but makes the process much easier. (Are you building with a basement? The transition from interior wall to foundation slab is a thermal bridge...).
The DIY work should also be accounted for in the construction schedule.
It is undisputed, in my opinion, that the interior walls are built together with the shell construction, completely, before the rough-in of plumbing and electrical installations. Anything else doesn’t make sense...
Which type of block is used for the exterior walls? I would base the choice of interior walls on that. Otherwise, I suggest considering calcium silicate blocks. With the "right" shell contractor or house builder, I would coordinate the connection of the interior walls to the exterior walls in advance. You will need help for the door lintels. Maybe the contractor can lay the first row, and you can build up from there. That obviously reduces the potential savings but makes the process much easier. (Are you building with a basement? The transition from interior wall to foundation slab is a thermal bridge...).
The DIY work should also be accounted for in the construction schedule.
Bieber0815 schrieb:
I think masonry work is actually a nice do-it-yourself task. It would almost be the only job I would personally enjoy (and could manage reasonably well ... 🙄 ).
Undoubtedly, in my opinion, the interior walls are built together with the shell construction, completely, before the rough-in of plumbing and electrical systems. Anything else is nonsense...
Which type of block will be used for the exterior walls? I would base the interior walls on that. Otherwise, I suggest considering calcium silicate blocks. With the "right" shell contractor or house builder, I would coordinate the connection of the interior walls to the exterior walls in advance. You will need help with the door lintels. Maybe the shell builder can lay the first row, and you can do the rest of the masonry. That obviously reduces the savings potential but makes things much easier. (Are you building with a basement? The transition from interior wall to foundation slab is a thermal bridge...)
In the construction schedule, the DIY work must also be taken into account.Hello, no, we are building without a basement!
The pipes will already be installed as they are located inside the exterior walls! It’s basically just about electricity, LAN, and TV cables for each room now!
I was just thinking of laying the first row, then having the professionals install the underfloor heating and screed, and then calmly finishing the rest of the masonry!
That should be fine, right?
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