ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
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R.Hotzenplotz24 Jun 2017 10:56In your experience, is a staircase width of 1 meter (3.3 feet) actually sufficient? Don’t you constantly bump into the wall?
I have now read through everything...
- Kitchen facing the garden/terrace... I would find this much more suitable.
- I would have placed the large TV in the basement room originally planned as a home theater, and used the ground floor for a living area with perhaps a smaller TV, more for reading, and possibly combined with
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
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Office: Family use - In the latest version of the kids’ bathroom... I would swap the toilet and shower. The shower is very small and right by the window, while the current toilet area with the privacy partition seems like a poor solution.
- For the children’s rooms... I would avoid floor-to-ceiling windows (for privacy reasons and to consider furniture placement and how it looks from outside).
- Pay close attention to the garage door / pantry and make the door wider. Considering there is a basement, I wonder what is intended to be stored in the pantry. I would rather plan a smaller storage closet for the vacuum cleaner, mop, etc., and only keep a few supplies there. The rest should go in the basement.
- Overall, by better utilizing the space and the combinations defined above, you could probably save 10 to 15 sqm (100 to 160 sq ft) of living area without any drawbacks.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
In your experience, is a 1 meter wide staircase actually sufficient? Don’t you constantly bump into the wall?1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) width plus handrail: not only sufficient, but good!
Best regards in brief
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
So far, we haven’t discussed windows. Only that, in principle, we don’t want floor-to-ceiling windows except for the patio door and balcony doors. And then, in hindsight, when we noticed certain things… Using this “method” reliably leads to a mixed bag: doorless openings at 80cm (31.5 inches), while with doors they would be 88cm (34.6 inches); a bulky heavy-duty entrance door 126cm (49.6 inches) wide, which means you have to get 46cm (18.1 inches) narrower on the way to the kitchen; four double-wing windows in kitchen / living room / workroom / cloakroom have three different widths; openings to the kitchen are 80cm (31.5 inches) wide when it’s at the front (but when it was at the back, it was still 101cm (39.8 inches)); the swing directions of the bedroom and child 1 room doors are clearly a poor design, even a layperson could spot it.
Ibdk14 schrieb:
I would make the door from the garage to the pantry wider. It could get tight if you want to move shopping boxes through there. ... is a comment I had avoided mentioning because, in my opinion, it’s immediately obvious. That made me even more surprised by your question
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
From your experience, is a 1-meter (39.4 inches) wide staircase actually sufficient? Don’t you constantly bump against the wall? because in the garage you actually scrape along the wall for the entire transport path. I would probably shift the garage half a meter (which also fits the wall strips next to the gate) toward the garden, then it works.
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R.Hotzenplotz26 Jun 2017 23:23Here is the latest version with the incorporated requirements.
The ground floor in two variants, which differ around the couch area. I can also quite well imagine the balcony door and the couch side meeting in the middle. I see version 1 less likely, version 2 maybe... possibly I will also ask the architect tomorrow, starting from version 1, to bring the wall above the couch and the wall with the terrace door closer together so that they meet in the middle.
The upper floor, in my opinion, has been well optimized in terms of space. The staircase was widened slightly as requested (even though it was recently said that 1 meter (3.3 feet) width would be sufficient... by then my thoughts had already been shared with the architect; but this does not seem to have affected the entire design).
Attached is also a basement floor plan. Although I still need to take a closer look at this. It is probably too large. And the guest room / light well has only been considered in one of the ground floor versions.
How do you like the larger area in front of the stairs on the ground floor? I think the reduction of the pantry to enlarge the passage between kitchen and living room is good. The corner towards the study room not so much. But overall, this design is another big step forward.
The architect wrote that he shifted the staircase slightly to the left to achieve a bit more symmetry.
The ground floor in two variants, which differ around the couch area. I can also quite well imagine the balcony door and the couch side meeting in the middle. I see version 1 less likely, version 2 maybe... possibly I will also ask the architect tomorrow, starting from version 1, to bring the wall above the couch and the wall with the terrace door closer together so that they meet in the middle.
The upper floor, in my opinion, has been well optimized in terms of space. The staircase was widened slightly as requested (even though it was recently said that 1 meter (3.3 feet) width would be sufficient... by then my thoughts had already been shared with the architect; but this does not seem to have affected the entire design).
Attached is also a basement floor plan. Although I still need to take a closer look at this. It is probably too large. And the guest room / light well has only been considered in one of the ground floor versions.
How do you like the larger area in front of the stairs on the ground floor? I think the reduction of the pantry to enlarge the passage between kitchen and living room is good. The corner towards the study room not so much. But overall, this design is another big step forward.
The architect wrote that he shifted the staircase slightly to the left to achieve a bit more symmetry.
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