ᐅ Which Sensors for What? Inspiration

Created on: 26 Apr 2020 22:42
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Tarnari
Hello everyone,

we need to start giving the electrician instructions on what to install where and how to configure it.
I could use some guidance on what makes sense where and would like to ask you KNX users how you use it. Which sensors can be used in a basic way (without advanced components, as our electrician can’t handle that, and I will have to do that myself later) for the classic applications?

I am mainly interested in the following:

1. Presence detectors (PD)
2. Motion sensors (MS)
3. Switched sockets/outlets
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matte
29 May 2020 13:09
MDT blinds actuators have this feature integrated.
When the door is open, the blind is raised and the shading is disabled.
This is built into the actuator’s ventilation function.
Ideally, two contacts are installed on the doors, allowing differentiation between tilted/open/closed states.
Both contacts can be connected to the blinds actuator.
When tilted, only the slats are set horizontally; when opened, the blind is raised.
When closed, the shading is restarted if necessary.
Tarnari29 May 2020 13:16
And this is exactly where I see a weakness. I go outside and close the door behind me because I don’t want any pests inside the house.
The door is therefore closed, right?
So I go to the grill, and behind me the shading comes down again.
untergasse4329 May 2020 13:38
Then you need a door with lock status monitoring. This makes sense anyway if you want to visualize the lock status of the house, for example. In an emergency, this could also be done with an EnOcean handle. However, it does not detect the actual lock status if, for example, someone turns the handle while the door is open.
Tarnari29 May 2020 13:50
I am aware of that.
My question is, how do you avoid this behavior? How do you deal with this situation?
Do you leave the door open? Do you have a specific door handle set for this? Do you take the risk and hope you don’t get locked out? Do you have any locking mechanism for the roller shutter that engages somehow when you go out?
Mycraft29 May 2020 14:46
If you install a closure monitoring system, you can close the door whenever you want, but it will remain unlocked. As a result, the shading at this door will stay blocked as long as the door is not closed from the inside (using the handle).

This scenario can be easily managed with two simple window contacts (e.g., Roto MVS).
Tarnari29 May 2020 15:15
Our windows will be fitted with the Aerocontrol contacts from Siegenia, two units each.
The manufacturer specifies lock and opening monitoring. Unfortunately, I am not entirely clear about the detailed description...