Hello everyone,
we need to start giving the electrician instructions on what to install where and how to configure it.
I could use some guidance on what makes sense where and would like to ask you KNX users how you use it. Which sensors can be used in a basic way (without advanced components, as our electrician can’t handle that, and I will have to do that myself later) for the classic applications?
I am mainly interested in the following:
1. Presence detectors (PD)
2. Motion sensors (MS)
3. Switched sockets/outlets
we need to start giving the electrician instructions on what to install where and how to configure it.
I could use some guidance on what makes sense where and would like to ask you KNX users how you use it. Which sensors can be used in a basic way (without advanced components, as our electrician can’t handle that, and I will have to do that myself later) for the classic applications?
I am mainly interested in the following:
1. Presence detectors (PD)
2. Motion sensors (MS)
3. Switched sockets/outlets
@Tarnari In the utility room, I have a waterproof switch for the ceiling light and an outlet below it. The heating system, part of the ventilation, and other equipment are installed there. I arranged the electrical room the same way. It’s also cheaper than the distribution board. As mentioned, it doesn’t help you to know how we did it. The house has three glass walls on one level, so you can’t really install a switch there (except for attaching a wireless switch). The layout, rooms, size, and usage are different.
It’s not bothersome. You just need to determine what you require for yourself.
In the garden shed, there is also the combination of a waterproof switch and socket.
Another switch in the pavilion for the underfloor heating...
Most of it is controlled through automation. It can be remotely operated anyway via control panels or mobile devices.
In the garden shed, there is also the combination of a waterproof switch and socket.
Another switch in the pavilion for the underfloor heating...
Most of it is controlled through automation. It can be remotely operated anyway via control panels or mobile devices.
Tarnari schrieb:
Until now, a server was not planned.
However, I have seen that MDT offers a fairly affordable logic unit.
Does anyone know it? Is it any good?
And again regarding the switches.
In which rooms do you think smart switches make sense, or where are 2- or 4-button switches enough?
Guest WC, utility room, technical room, and hallways don’t need any, in my opinion, right? If you plan without a KNX server, you also plan without an "app," meaning no control via tablet or smartphone.
Besides lighting, in rooms like the technical room, utility room, or WC, you probably have blinds that would require a physical switch—unless you want to control them solely based on time or brightness.
With a simple server and app, you at least have the option of a “digital switch” for everything; these don’t have to be visible on the home screen. For example, if you ever want to raise the blind in the technical room at night.
With the app (visualization/server), I can do without many physical switches; without it, I personally find the reliance on logic/time control a bit too high.
I can recommend the X1.
Initially, we had no visualization planned either.
However, my curiosity quickly demanded it. I didn’t really want to deal with EDOMI because it seemed too complicated to learn. After a brief test of the Jung Smart Visu, it was replaced by the Gira X1.
For a simple visualization on a smartphone, this is enough for us, and the integrated logic engine allows for a lot of possibilities.
Since the X1 also serves as an IP interface for programming, it’s a real value-for-money option. Sonos integration has also been possible for some time, but I connected it through IP-Symcon because it wasn’t yet supported by the X1 at that time.
Timers are also possible with it.
KNX without visualization—or better said without a logic engine—is possible but leaves some resources unused.
The nice thing about KNX is that such features are quite easy to retrofit.
Unless you want to have some stylish tablets mounted on the wall, you don’t need to plan much space aside from room in the distribution board for a visualization system.
We deliberately decided against tablets from the start, and I honestly don’t see any need for them.
Initially, we had no visualization planned either.
However, my curiosity quickly demanded it. I didn’t really want to deal with EDOMI because it seemed too complicated to learn. After a brief test of the Jung Smart Visu, it was replaced by the Gira X1.
For a simple visualization on a smartphone, this is enough for us, and the integrated logic engine allows for a lot of possibilities.
Since the X1 also serves as an IP interface for programming, it’s a real value-for-money option. Sonos integration has also been possible for some time, but I connected it through IP-Symcon because it wasn’t yet supported by the X1 at that time.
Timers are also possible with it.
KNX without visualization—or better said without a logic engine—is possible but leaves some resources unused.
The nice thing about KNX is that such features are quite easy to retrofit.
Unless you want to have some stylish tablets mounted on the wall, you don’t need to plan much space aside from room in the distribution board for a visualization system.
We deliberately decided against tablets from the start, and I honestly don’t see any need for them.