Hello,
I’m new here and want to start right away with a question.
I am currently planning a kitchen for my new apartment. I have already decided on the IKEA Faktum kitchen with Abstrakt fronts. The challenge with the planning is definitely the space, especially since I also have to fit the washing machine in the kitchen, as I have no other option. Therefore, I would like to fully integrate the washing machine into the kitchen. Unfortunately, this means that the fully integrated dishwasher (45cm (18 inches) wide) will have to be placed right next to the washing machine. However, I am concerned about stability, since there will be two built-in appliances side by side, and the washing machine does produce quite a bit of vibration. The IKEA consultant suggested that I could install the 45cm (18 inches) dishwasher in a 50cm (20 inches) cabinet instead. Maybe someone here can confirm whether this actually works? Does a fully integrated dishwasher really fit into a 50cm (20 inches) cabinet? And can I easily attach a 50cm (20 inches) cabinet door to the dishwasher, or are there other issues or disadvantages with doing this?
Best regards,
Christoph
I’m new here and want to start right away with a question.
I am currently planning a kitchen for my new apartment. I have already decided on the IKEA Faktum kitchen with Abstrakt fronts. The challenge with the planning is definitely the space, especially since I also have to fit the washing machine in the kitchen, as I have no other option. Therefore, I would like to fully integrate the washing machine into the kitchen. Unfortunately, this means that the fully integrated dishwasher (45cm (18 inches) wide) will have to be placed right next to the washing machine. However, I am concerned about stability, since there will be two built-in appliances side by side, and the washing machine does produce quite a bit of vibration. The IKEA consultant suggested that I could install the 45cm (18 inches) dishwasher in a 50cm (20 inches) cabinet instead. Maybe someone here can confirm whether this actually works? Does a fully integrated dishwasher really fit into a 50cm (20 inches) cabinet? And can I easily attach a 50cm (20 inches) cabinet door to the dishwasher, or are there other issues or disadvantages with doing this?
Best regards,
Christoph
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mangotree_7523 Oct 2012 13:49Hi, I’m currently dealing with the dishwasher issue as well... At IKEA, dishwashers are never built-in, meaning they are not installed inside a cabinet carcass but placed on the floor between two cabinets. So, you simply need to leave 50cm (20 inches) of space between two cabinets, position the 45cm (18 inches) dishwasher in the center, then cover the approximately 2.5cm (1 inch) gaps on the left and right with a panel (that’s how the consultant explained it to me), and finally screw the 50cm (20 inches) door panel in front.
If I’m not mistaken, this setup is also displayed at Vienna North (where all the appliances are lined up) – so if you’re in Vienna, you can take a look there.
Hope this helps! Best regards, Verena
If I’m not mistaken, this setup is also displayed at Vienna North (where all the appliances are lined up) – so if you’re in Vienna, you can take a look there.
Hope this helps! Best regards, Verena
Hello,
As a future Berlin resident, I actually have four branches to choose from...
I will probably have to visit there a few more times anyway, to get some inspiration (and to solve technical issues). My problem is that the built-in washing machine is placed directly to the left of the dishwasher, so there is no cabinet side panel where I could attach a cover panel. Or is it possible to attach it to the dishwasher itself? And as I said, this whole setup doesn’t seem very stable to me. That’s why it would be very helpful if the 50cm (20 inches) cabinet carcass solution would work...
Last night, I also noticed with my preliminary plan that my wall cabinets are not aligned symmetrically with the base units (only the total width matches). It looks okay on the drawing, but how will it appear in reality? I’m worried it might look visually awkward...
Best regards
Christoph
As a future Berlin resident, I actually have four branches to choose from...
I will probably have to visit there a few more times anyway, to get some inspiration (and to solve technical issues). My problem is that the built-in washing machine is placed directly to the left of the dishwasher, so there is no cabinet side panel where I could attach a cover panel. Or is it possible to attach it to the dishwasher itself? And as I said, this whole setup doesn’t seem very stable to me. That’s why it would be very helpful if the 50cm (20 inches) cabinet carcass solution would work...
Last night, I also noticed with my preliminary plan that my wall cabinets are not aligned symmetrically with the base units (only the total width matches). It looks okay on the drawing, but how will it appear in reality? I’m worried it might look visually awkward...
Best regards
Christoph
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Nayla_106824 Oct 2012 16:38Hi,
as mentioned above, there are no cabinets designed specifically for dishwashers. These usually stand on their own feet directly on the floor, with few exceptions. Basically, it’s quite simple. Leave a gap between the washing machine and the base cabinet of about 50.5cm to 51cm (20 to 20.1 inches). Then place the 45cm (17.7 inches) dishwasher into that space and attach the 50cm (19.7 inches) door panel. The front of the dishwasher doesn’t need a gap to the base cabinet, but you should leave about 0.5cm to 1cm (0.2 to 0.4 inches) of air space next to the washing machine to prevent noise or vibrations during spinning. From the front, you will have a smooth, flush appearance; only when you open the dishwasher will you notice the gap between the washing machine and dishwasher.
Regarding your question about symmetry between the wall cabinets and base cabinets: try to plan the kitchen in a clean and orderly way. Ideally, the wall cabinets and base cabinets should align horizontally. Also, please avoid mixing too many different cabinet widths. It’s better to stick to many 60cm (23.6 inches) cabinets rather than mixing 30cm, 50cm, 80cm, etc., as this tends to look chaotic and can make even the most beautiful kitchen appear cheap. You can break the alignment between wall and base cabinets by using horizontal wall cabinets. In that case, try to use consistent widths or—if mixing is necessary—plan the sizes in a visually pleasing sequence, such as 70cm, 92cm, 70cm (27.6, 36.2, 27.6 inches) and so on. If you choose a different color or incorporate lots of glass for these cabinets, the kitchen will really stand out.
Have fun planning, I hope I was able to help you a bit.
Best regards
Na.
as mentioned above, there are no cabinets designed specifically for dishwashers. These usually stand on their own feet directly on the floor, with few exceptions. Basically, it’s quite simple. Leave a gap between the washing machine and the base cabinet of about 50.5cm to 51cm (20 to 20.1 inches). Then place the 45cm (17.7 inches) dishwasher into that space and attach the 50cm (19.7 inches) door panel. The front of the dishwasher doesn’t need a gap to the base cabinet, but you should leave about 0.5cm to 1cm (0.2 to 0.4 inches) of air space next to the washing machine to prevent noise or vibrations during spinning. From the front, you will have a smooth, flush appearance; only when you open the dishwasher will you notice the gap between the washing machine and dishwasher.
Regarding your question about symmetry between the wall cabinets and base cabinets: try to plan the kitchen in a clean and orderly way. Ideally, the wall cabinets and base cabinets should align horizontally. Also, please avoid mixing too many different cabinet widths. It’s better to stick to many 60cm (23.6 inches) cabinets rather than mixing 30cm, 50cm, 80cm, etc., as this tends to look chaotic and can make even the most beautiful kitchen appear cheap. You can break the alignment between wall and base cabinets by using horizontal wall cabinets. In that case, try to use consistent widths or—if mixing is necessary—plan the sizes in a visually pleasing sequence, such as 70cm, 92cm, 70cm (27.6, 36.2, 27.6 inches) and so on. If you choose a different color or incorporate lots of glass for these cabinets, the kitchen will really stand out.
Have fun planning, I hope I was able to help you a bit.
Best regards
Na.
Well, have fun planning, I hope I was able to help you a bit. Definitely, thank you! I had already considered a two-tone scheme; with the abstract fronts, it almost suggests itself.
Unfortunately, I have to say that the conditions are not ideal. The backsplash is illogical in length (I can’t use it fully; otherwise, the kitchen door won’t open completely… if only it were continuous instead of ending somewhere between the maximum possible length of the kitchen run and the corner/door). On the other hand, the wall with the stove connection has no backsplash at all… Also, there are no outlets for the wall cabinets…
Christoph
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Nayla_106826 Oct 2012 01:08Hmm,
at least for the tile backsplash, you could have wall panels installed in the same color as the countertop along the entire length of the kitchen. This way, the missing backsplash won’t be noticeable in the key areas and will look stylish. It should be reasonably priced—have your local home improvement store calculate the cost for you. Regarding the missing electrical outlets, only an electrician can help, possibly by extending another outlet from an existing one. Otherwise, your only option would be extension cords.
Regards
Na.
at least for the tile backsplash, you could have wall panels installed in the same color as the countertop along the entire length of the kitchen. This way, the missing backsplash won’t be noticeable in the key areas and will look stylish. It should be reasonably priced—have your local home improvement store calculate the cost for you. Regarding the missing electrical outlets, only an electrician can help, possibly by extending another outlet from an existing one. Otherwise, your only option would be extension cords.
Regards
Na.
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