ᐅ Final stage floor plan: Is there still potential for improvement?
Created on: 16 Apr 2018 22:14
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Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 606m² (6519 sq ft)
Slope: slight north-facing slope (3m (10 ft) over 34m (112 ft) length)
House: south-north = 1m (3 ft) height difference
Site occupancy index: 0.35 (212m² (2282 sq ft))
Floor area ratio: 0.40 (242m² (2605 sq ft))
Building envelope: marked in blue (approx. 11.8 x 14.5m (39 x 48 ft))
Boundary construction allowed: no
Parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two full stories: ground floor + upper floor
Roof type: 38–42° (degrees) gable roof
Architectural style: traditional
Ridge orientation: south-north
Maximum heights / limits: northern eave-side wall height above natural ground level: 3.80m (12 ft 6 in)
Additional requirements: knee wall height from top of raw floor slab to bottom of wall plate 0.50m (70cm / 1 ft 8 in approx. inside)
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: all according to development plan
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 28 (female), 30 (male), plus at least 1 planned child
Space needs in basement: hobby room, utility room, pantry/storage, sauna planned later
Space needs on ground floor: living room, dining + kitchen, WC, hallway
Space needs on upper floor: master bedroom, dressing room, child 1 + child 2, hallway, bathroom
Office: home office!
Overnight guests per year: 3 guests at Easter and Christmas
Closed architecture
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen connected to dining room
Number of dining seats: 5
Living room fireplace: wall-mounted ethanol fireplace
Music / stereo wall: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: single or double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: hallway large enough to bring in and temporarily park a stroller, e.g., when it’s raining outside; staircase with 1m (3 ft 3 in) wide steps and easy to walk on (hence double landings); living room at least 4.5m (15 ft) wide; no direct connection between parents’ and children’s bedrooms; stairway not located in entryway dirt area; all interior doors with 985mm (39 in) clear opening; dining room: lift-and-slide door with 3m (10 ft) width
House Design
- Designer: do-it-yourself
- What do you particularly like about it? Why?
Double-landing staircase, kitchen and dining area facing south, circulation area on the north-east side; large glass window in dining room facing garden, G-shaped kitchen, enlargement of children’s rooms with dormer windows; hallway hopefully spacious-looking even though it could be a little wider
- What do you dislike? Why?
No room for a urinal in the ground floor bathroom
Basement not yet well planned, unsure how to properly separate a future sauna room
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: €425,000
- Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump / ground loop collector + mechanical ventilation with heat recovery + underfloor heating
If You Have to Give Up Anything, on which details / features
- Could give up: exposed roof structure
- Cannot give up: shower in ground floor WC; staircase with straight steps; stairway outside the dirt zone; wardrobe
Why is the Design Like It Is?
Lots of reading layout reviews here, input from builder friends; about 100 hours of drawing floor plans
- What makes it especially good or bad in your view?
In our opinion, very efficient use of space in a relatively small house, pleasant hallway layout
What Is the Most Important / Basic Question About the Floor Plan Summarized in 130 Characters?
Is this floor plan practical?
Are there any major issues or deal-breakers we might have overlooked?
Attached are our own drawings from SketchUp / site plan from the development plan
Our plot is number [9]
Note: Unfortunately, windows are missing on the upper floor. There are planned windows on the gable ends sized 150 x 138cm (59 x 54 in), dormer windows each approx. 200 x 138cm (79 x 54 in), and in the stairwell, master bedroom, and bathroom an additional double casement window sized 78 x 160cm (31 x 63 in)
Plot size: 606m² (6519 sq ft)
Slope: slight north-facing slope (3m (10 ft) over 34m (112 ft) length)
House: south-north = 1m (3 ft) height difference
Site occupancy index: 0.35 (212m² (2282 sq ft))
Floor area ratio: 0.40 (242m² (2605 sq ft))
Building envelope: marked in blue (approx. 11.8 x 14.5m (39 x 48 ft))
Boundary construction allowed: no
Parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two full stories: ground floor + upper floor
Roof type: 38–42° (degrees) gable roof
Architectural style: traditional
Ridge orientation: south-north
Maximum heights / limits: northern eave-side wall height above natural ground level: 3.80m (12 ft 6 in)
Additional requirements: knee wall height from top of raw floor slab to bottom of wall plate 0.50m (70cm / 1 ft 8 in approx. inside)
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: all according to development plan
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 28 (female), 30 (male), plus at least 1 planned child
Space needs in basement: hobby room, utility room, pantry/storage, sauna planned later
Space needs on ground floor: living room, dining + kitchen, WC, hallway
Space needs on upper floor: master bedroom, dressing room, child 1 + child 2, hallway, bathroom
Office: home office!
Overnight guests per year: 3 guests at Easter and Christmas
Closed architecture
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen connected to dining room
Number of dining seats: 5
Living room fireplace: wall-mounted ethanol fireplace
Music / stereo wall: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: single or double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: hallway large enough to bring in and temporarily park a stroller, e.g., when it’s raining outside; staircase with 1m (3 ft 3 in) wide steps and easy to walk on (hence double landings); living room at least 4.5m (15 ft) wide; no direct connection between parents’ and children’s bedrooms; stairway not located in entryway dirt area; all interior doors with 985mm (39 in) clear opening; dining room: lift-and-slide door with 3m (10 ft) width
House Design
- Designer: do-it-yourself
- What do you particularly like about it? Why?
Double-landing staircase, kitchen and dining area facing south, circulation area on the north-east side; large glass window in dining room facing garden, G-shaped kitchen, enlargement of children’s rooms with dormer windows; hallway hopefully spacious-looking even though it could be a little wider
- What do you dislike? Why?
No room for a urinal in the ground floor bathroom
Basement not yet well planned, unsure how to properly separate a future sauna room
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: €425,000
- Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump / ground loop collector + mechanical ventilation with heat recovery + underfloor heating
If You Have to Give Up Anything, on which details / features
- Could give up: exposed roof structure
- Cannot give up: shower in ground floor WC; staircase with straight steps; stairway outside the dirt zone; wardrobe
Why is the Design Like It Is?
Lots of reading layout reviews here, input from builder friends; about 100 hours of drawing floor plans
- What makes it especially good or bad in your view?
In our opinion, very efficient use of space in a relatively small house, pleasant hallway layout
What Is the Most Important / Basic Question About the Floor Plan Summarized in 130 Characters?
Is this floor plan practical?
Are there any major issues or deal-breakers we might have overlooked?
Attached are our own drawings from SketchUp / site plan from the development plan
Our plot is number [9]
Note: Unfortunately, windows are missing on the upper floor. There are planned windows on the gable ends sized 150 x 138cm (59 x 54 in), dormer windows each approx. 200 x 138cm (79 x 54 in), and in the stairwell, master bedroom, and bathroom an additional double casement window sized 78 x 160cm (31 x 63 in)
kaho674 schrieb:
So, could we at least try around 90?! Since we have a hillside rising on the south side and sloping down on the north side, it would of course be preferable for the ground floor (GF) floor level to be as high as possible. If we increase the knee wall by 25 cm (10 inches) at the top, the GF floor would have to be lowered accordingly. With this 25 cm (10 inches), it would line up exactly with the terrain edge on the north side. This means we would have to excavate our terrace even more, and the ground floor would be somewhat deeper.
I have dug out about 1 m (3 feet) everywhere to build a kneewall. The second gable is still included for now, but we could also just install a 1.30 m (4 feet 3 inches) knee wall like in the other child’s room and place the bed in front of it.
What do you think about those 65 cm (25 inches) corners in the bedroom and children’s room? Does that feel awkward when you enter the room?
Attached is a draft of mine and a drawing of the knee wall as it is permitted.
ypg schrieb:
Yes So what exactly is the advantage compared to a separate walk-in closet? I don’t think I understand.
haydee schrieb:
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A shower on the bedroom wall is not as noisy if the plumbing does not run along that wall. Good to know
modder schrieb:
Attached is a draft from me and a drawing of the knee wall as it is permitted.Definitely an improvement, in my opinion.Combining the walk-in closet with Yvonne’s bedroom likely aims to create spacious rooms with a feeling of more freedom of movement. Additionally, this way the “valuable” third gable is integrated into a main room instead of being relegated to a secondary space. But if that doesn’t fit your daily routine, I wouldn’t hesitate because of it.
What I don’t like about your draft is that when you open the door, you immediately face a wall. Also, I’m not really fond of such a slanted shower design.
At how many centimeters (inches) is your 1m (3.3 ft) limit set, including the exterior wall?
Yes, a greater sense of space is definitely something great, but practicality will probably win out here. Especially since I like my girlfriend a lot more when she’s not mad at me because I forgot something in the bedroom again.
The 1m (3.3 ft) limit refers to the interior dimension: 32.7cm (13 inches) + exterior wall 34.45cm (13.6 inches) = ~67cm (26.4 inches)
#Edit
Yes, such a large bedroom would definitely be great.
The 1m (3.3 ft) limit refers to the interior dimension: 32.7cm (13 inches) + exterior wall 34.45cm (13.6 inches) = ~67cm (26.4 inches)
#Edit
Yes, such a large bedroom would definitely be great.
The time allowed to edit your own post is very short here in the forum, isn’t it?
Attached is a draft with just one extra gable and a shower next to the bedroom. The wardrobes in the children’s rooms are really large, so they can probably hold a lot of toys.
Even though a little space is lost this way, I find it nicer when the wall after the staircase is angled. To me, that feels a bit more welcoming.
I also moved the wall of the dressing area back slightly into the hallway to improve the bedroom entrance. That creates a 38cm (15 inches) “tunnel” by one of the children’s rooms.
Attached is a draft with just one extra gable and a shower next to the bedroom. The wardrobes in the children’s rooms are really large, so they can probably hold a lot of toys.
Even though a little space is lost this way, I find it nicer when the wall after the staircase is angled. To me, that feels a bit more welcoming.
I also moved the wall of the dressing area back slightly into the hallway to improve the bedroom entrance. That creates a 38cm (15 inches) “tunnel” by one of the children’s rooms.
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