ᐅ Final stage floor plan: Is there still potential for improvement?
Created on: 16 Apr 2018 22:14
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modder
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 606m² (6519 sq ft)
Slope: slight north-facing slope (3m (10 ft) over 34m (112 ft) length)
House: south-north = 1m (3 ft) height difference
Site occupancy index: 0.35 (212m² (2282 sq ft))
Floor area ratio: 0.40 (242m² (2605 sq ft))
Building envelope: marked in blue (approx. 11.8 x 14.5m (39 x 48 ft))
Boundary construction allowed: no
Parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two full stories: ground floor + upper floor
Roof type: 38–42° (degrees) gable roof
Architectural style: traditional
Ridge orientation: south-north
Maximum heights / limits: northern eave-side wall height above natural ground level: 3.80m (12 ft 6 in)
Additional requirements: knee wall height from top of raw floor slab to bottom of wall plate 0.50m (70cm / 1 ft 8 in approx. inside)
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: all according to development plan
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 28 (female), 30 (male), plus at least 1 planned child
Space needs in basement: hobby room, utility room, pantry/storage, sauna planned later
Space needs on ground floor: living room, dining + kitchen, WC, hallway
Space needs on upper floor: master bedroom, dressing room, child 1 + child 2, hallway, bathroom
Office: home office!
Overnight guests per year: 3 guests at Easter and Christmas
Closed architecture
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen connected to dining room
Number of dining seats: 5
Living room fireplace: wall-mounted ethanol fireplace
Music / stereo wall: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: single or double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: hallway large enough to bring in and temporarily park a stroller, e.g., when it’s raining outside; staircase with 1m (3 ft 3 in) wide steps and easy to walk on (hence double landings); living room at least 4.5m (15 ft) wide; no direct connection between parents’ and children’s bedrooms; stairway not located in entryway dirt area; all interior doors with 985mm (39 in) clear opening; dining room: lift-and-slide door with 3m (10 ft) width
House Design
- Designer: do-it-yourself
- What do you particularly like about it? Why?
Double-landing staircase, kitchen and dining area facing south, circulation area on the north-east side; large glass window in dining room facing garden, G-shaped kitchen, enlargement of children’s rooms with dormer windows; hallway hopefully spacious-looking even though it could be a little wider
- What do you dislike? Why?
No room for a urinal in the ground floor bathroom
Basement not yet well planned, unsure how to properly separate a future sauna room
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: €425,000
- Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump / ground loop collector + mechanical ventilation with heat recovery + underfloor heating
If You Have to Give Up Anything, on which details / features
- Could give up: exposed roof structure
- Cannot give up: shower in ground floor WC; staircase with straight steps; stairway outside the dirt zone; wardrobe
Why is the Design Like It Is?
Lots of reading layout reviews here, input from builder friends; about 100 hours of drawing floor plans
- What makes it especially good or bad in your view?
In our opinion, very efficient use of space in a relatively small house, pleasant hallway layout
What Is the Most Important / Basic Question About the Floor Plan Summarized in 130 Characters?
Is this floor plan practical?
Are there any major issues or deal-breakers we might have overlooked?
Attached are our own drawings from SketchUp / site plan from the development plan
Our plot is number [9]
Note: Unfortunately, windows are missing on the upper floor. There are planned windows on the gable ends sized 150 x 138cm (59 x 54 in), dormer windows each approx. 200 x 138cm (79 x 54 in), and in the stairwell, master bedroom, and bathroom an additional double casement window sized 78 x 160cm (31 x 63 in)
Plot size: 606m² (6519 sq ft)
Slope: slight north-facing slope (3m (10 ft) over 34m (112 ft) length)
House: south-north = 1m (3 ft) height difference
Site occupancy index: 0.35 (212m² (2282 sq ft))
Floor area ratio: 0.40 (242m² (2605 sq ft))
Building envelope: marked in blue (approx. 11.8 x 14.5m (39 x 48 ft))
Boundary construction allowed: no
Parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two full stories: ground floor + upper floor
Roof type: 38–42° (degrees) gable roof
Architectural style: traditional
Ridge orientation: south-north
Maximum heights / limits: northern eave-side wall height above natural ground level: 3.80m (12 ft 6 in)
Additional requirements: knee wall height from top of raw floor slab to bottom of wall plate 0.50m (70cm / 1 ft 8 in approx. inside)
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: all according to development plan
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 28 (female), 30 (male), plus at least 1 planned child
Space needs in basement: hobby room, utility room, pantry/storage, sauna planned later
Space needs on ground floor: living room, dining + kitchen, WC, hallway
Space needs on upper floor: master bedroom, dressing room, child 1 + child 2, hallway, bathroom
Office: home office!
Overnight guests per year: 3 guests at Easter and Christmas
Closed architecture
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen connected to dining room
Number of dining seats: 5
Living room fireplace: wall-mounted ethanol fireplace
Music / stereo wall: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: single or double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: hallway large enough to bring in and temporarily park a stroller, e.g., when it’s raining outside; staircase with 1m (3 ft 3 in) wide steps and easy to walk on (hence double landings); living room at least 4.5m (15 ft) wide; no direct connection between parents’ and children’s bedrooms; stairway not located in entryway dirt area; all interior doors with 985mm (39 in) clear opening; dining room: lift-and-slide door with 3m (10 ft) width
House Design
- Designer: do-it-yourself
- What do you particularly like about it? Why?
Double-landing staircase, kitchen and dining area facing south, circulation area on the north-east side; large glass window in dining room facing garden, G-shaped kitchen, enlargement of children’s rooms with dormer windows; hallway hopefully spacious-looking even though it could be a little wider
- What do you dislike? Why?
No room for a urinal in the ground floor bathroom
Basement not yet well planned, unsure how to properly separate a future sauna room
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: €425,000
- Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump / ground loop collector + mechanical ventilation with heat recovery + underfloor heating
If You Have to Give Up Anything, on which details / features
- Could give up: exposed roof structure
- Cannot give up: shower in ground floor WC; staircase with straight steps; stairway outside the dirt zone; wardrobe
Why is the Design Like It Is?
Lots of reading layout reviews here, input from builder friends; about 100 hours of drawing floor plans
- What makes it especially good or bad in your view?
In our opinion, very efficient use of space in a relatively small house, pleasant hallway layout
What Is the Most Important / Basic Question About the Floor Plan Summarized in 130 Characters?
Is this floor plan practical?
Are there any major issues or deal-breakers we might have overlooked?
Attached are our own drawings from SketchUp / site plan from the development plan
Our plot is number [9]
Note: Unfortunately, windows are missing on the upper floor. There are planned windows on the gable ends sized 150 x 138cm (59 x 54 in), dormer windows each approx. 200 x 138cm (79 x 54 in), and in the stairwell, master bedroom, and bathroom an additional double casement window sized 78 x 160cm (31 x 63 in)
ypg schrieb:
I always find it amusing when I read here about the beloved one, my girlfriend/wife, the authorities, insisting on their ideas without apparently considering whether they make sense or are affordable for the house Usually, the person in question also seems to find it improper to read the discussion thread themselves.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Ouch. That looks like a newly renovated suburban house from the 1950s, with a doorway created from the bedroom into the small animal pen. Could work as a provocative topic for discussion, but hopefully it’s not meant seriously.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Thank you for continuing to think this through—very cool! We actually don’t mind the opening to the small animal shelter at all.
However, the living room is unfortunately much too small. The first thing that came to my mind here is that with this bay window trick, it might be possible to avoid the knee wall on one side of the upper floor if the wall height of the bay window is set to 3.80m (12.5 ft). Then all the rooms on the west side would have a 2.06m (6.8 ft) knee wall. But I’m sure there’s a regulation in the zoning plan or building permit that forbids that. Still, something to keep in mind.
I discussed a lot with my partner and made many floor plan adjustments until something completely new emerged.
The following points were considered:
- Dark hallway made brighter, but the staircase is still not directly in the dirt zone
- Small coat rack next to the door
- 2m (6.5 ft) wide hallway (my urgent wish)
- Kitchen arranged in a galley layout
- Dark living room transformed into a friendly social space where you can read natural daylight on weekends
- Staircase with an extra landing so that the 90° turns don’t have small steps
- Living room has 4.5m (14.8 ft) space between the couch wall and TV wall
- Living room can also be arranged mirrored horizontally as long as we don’t have a projector yet
- Now all bathrooms and kitchen are on the same side of the house → easier and cheaper for heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC)
- If the dining table is moved slightly upward, a chair for sunbathing could be placed
The floor plan was slightly adjusted to now have a house width of 9.5m (31.2 ft), which should be good for the room size on the upper floor. At the same time, the length was reduced to 10.7m (35.1 ft), benefiting our south-facing garden.
There is a draft plan for the upper floor on which we have been working for two days already.
So for now, only the ground floor is attached:
#Edit
Only 4 instead of 5 rooms on the upper floor is also “approved.” After a few proposals, we agreed—especially since this means no gable is wasted for the dressing room, which was a great tip from you.
However, the living room is unfortunately much too small. The first thing that came to my mind here is that with this bay window trick, it might be possible to avoid the knee wall on one side of the upper floor if the wall height of the bay window is set to 3.80m (12.5 ft). Then all the rooms on the west side would have a 2.06m (6.8 ft) knee wall. But I’m sure there’s a regulation in the zoning plan or building permit that forbids that. Still, something to keep in mind.
I discussed a lot with my partner and made many floor plan adjustments until something completely new emerged.
The following points were considered:
- Dark hallway made brighter, but the staircase is still not directly in the dirt zone
- Small coat rack next to the door
- 2m (6.5 ft) wide hallway (my urgent wish)
- Kitchen arranged in a galley layout
- Dark living room transformed into a friendly social space where you can read natural daylight on weekends
- Staircase with an extra landing so that the 90° turns don’t have small steps
- Living room has 4.5m (14.8 ft) space between the couch wall and TV wall
- Living room can also be arranged mirrored horizontally as long as we don’t have a projector yet
- Now all bathrooms and kitchen are on the same side of the house → easier and cheaper for heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC)
- If the dining table is moved slightly upward, a chair for sunbathing could be placed
The floor plan was slightly adjusted to now have a house width of 9.5m (31.2 ft), which should be good for the room size on the upper floor. At the same time, the length was reduced to 10.7m (35.1 ft), benefiting our south-facing garden.
There is a draft plan for the upper floor on which we have been working for two days already.
So for now, only the ground floor is attached:
#Edit
Only 4 instead of 5 rooms on the upper floor is also “approved.” After a few proposals, we agreed—especially since this means no gable is wasted for the dressing room, which was a great tip from you.
modder schrieb:
But there is probably a clause in the zoning plan that prohibits this. Usually, there is a dormer size limit to a maximum of one-third of the length of this side.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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