ᐅ Final stage floor plan: Is there still potential for improvement?
Created on: 16 Apr 2018 22:14
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Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 606m² (6519 sq ft)
Slope: slight north-facing slope (3m (10 ft) over 34m (112 ft) length)
House: south-north = 1m (3 ft) height difference
Site occupancy index: 0.35 (212m² (2282 sq ft))
Floor area ratio: 0.40 (242m² (2605 sq ft))
Building envelope: marked in blue (approx. 11.8 x 14.5m (39 x 48 ft))
Boundary construction allowed: no
Parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two full stories: ground floor + upper floor
Roof type: 38–42° (degrees) gable roof
Architectural style: traditional
Ridge orientation: south-north
Maximum heights / limits: northern eave-side wall height above natural ground level: 3.80m (12 ft 6 in)
Additional requirements: knee wall height from top of raw floor slab to bottom of wall plate 0.50m (70cm / 1 ft 8 in approx. inside)
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: all according to development plan
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 28 (female), 30 (male), plus at least 1 planned child
Space needs in basement: hobby room, utility room, pantry/storage, sauna planned later
Space needs on ground floor: living room, dining + kitchen, WC, hallway
Space needs on upper floor: master bedroom, dressing room, child 1 + child 2, hallway, bathroom
Office: home office!
Overnight guests per year: 3 guests at Easter and Christmas
Closed architecture
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen connected to dining room
Number of dining seats: 5
Living room fireplace: wall-mounted ethanol fireplace
Music / stereo wall: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: single or double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: hallway large enough to bring in and temporarily park a stroller, e.g., when it’s raining outside; staircase with 1m (3 ft 3 in) wide steps and easy to walk on (hence double landings); living room at least 4.5m (15 ft) wide; no direct connection between parents’ and children’s bedrooms; stairway not located in entryway dirt area; all interior doors with 985mm (39 in) clear opening; dining room: lift-and-slide door with 3m (10 ft) width
House Design
- Designer: do-it-yourself
- What do you particularly like about it? Why?
Double-landing staircase, kitchen and dining area facing south, circulation area on the north-east side; large glass window in dining room facing garden, G-shaped kitchen, enlargement of children’s rooms with dormer windows; hallway hopefully spacious-looking even though it could be a little wider
- What do you dislike? Why?
No room for a urinal in the ground floor bathroom
Basement not yet well planned, unsure how to properly separate a future sauna room
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: €425,000
- Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump / ground loop collector + mechanical ventilation with heat recovery + underfloor heating
If You Have to Give Up Anything, on which details / features
- Could give up: exposed roof structure
- Cannot give up: shower in ground floor WC; staircase with straight steps; stairway outside the dirt zone; wardrobe
Why is the Design Like It Is?
Lots of reading layout reviews here, input from builder friends; about 100 hours of drawing floor plans
- What makes it especially good or bad in your view?
In our opinion, very efficient use of space in a relatively small house, pleasant hallway layout
What Is the Most Important / Basic Question About the Floor Plan Summarized in 130 Characters?
Is this floor plan practical?
Are there any major issues or deal-breakers we might have overlooked?
Attached are our own drawings from SketchUp / site plan from the development plan
Our plot is number [9]
Note: Unfortunately, windows are missing on the upper floor. There are planned windows on the gable ends sized 150 x 138cm (59 x 54 in), dormer windows each approx. 200 x 138cm (79 x 54 in), and in the stairwell, master bedroom, and bathroom an additional double casement window sized 78 x 160cm (31 x 63 in)
Plot size: 606m² (6519 sq ft)
Slope: slight north-facing slope (3m (10 ft) over 34m (112 ft) length)
House: south-north = 1m (3 ft) height difference
Site occupancy index: 0.35 (212m² (2282 sq ft))
Floor area ratio: 0.40 (242m² (2605 sq ft))
Building envelope: marked in blue (approx. 11.8 x 14.5m (39 x 48 ft))
Boundary construction allowed: no
Parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two full stories: ground floor + upper floor
Roof type: 38–42° (degrees) gable roof
Architectural style: traditional
Ridge orientation: south-north
Maximum heights / limits: northern eave-side wall height above natural ground level: 3.80m (12 ft 6 in)
Additional requirements: knee wall height from top of raw floor slab to bottom of wall plate 0.50m (70cm / 1 ft 8 in approx. inside)
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: all according to development plan
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 28 (female), 30 (male), plus at least 1 planned child
Space needs in basement: hobby room, utility room, pantry/storage, sauna planned later
Space needs on ground floor: living room, dining + kitchen, WC, hallway
Space needs on upper floor: master bedroom, dressing room, child 1 + child 2, hallway, bathroom
Office: home office!
Overnight guests per year: 3 guests at Easter and Christmas
Closed architecture
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen connected to dining room
Number of dining seats: 5
Living room fireplace: wall-mounted ethanol fireplace
Music / stereo wall: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: single or double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: hallway large enough to bring in and temporarily park a stroller, e.g., when it’s raining outside; staircase with 1m (3 ft 3 in) wide steps and easy to walk on (hence double landings); living room at least 4.5m (15 ft) wide; no direct connection between parents’ and children’s bedrooms; stairway not located in entryway dirt area; all interior doors with 985mm (39 in) clear opening; dining room: lift-and-slide door with 3m (10 ft) width
House Design
- Designer: do-it-yourself
- What do you particularly like about it? Why?
Double-landing staircase, kitchen and dining area facing south, circulation area on the north-east side; large glass window in dining room facing garden, G-shaped kitchen, enlargement of children’s rooms with dormer windows; hallway hopefully spacious-looking even though it could be a little wider
- What do you dislike? Why?
No room for a urinal in the ground floor bathroom
Basement not yet well planned, unsure how to properly separate a future sauna room
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: €425,000
- Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump / ground loop collector + mechanical ventilation with heat recovery + underfloor heating
If You Have to Give Up Anything, on which details / features
- Could give up: exposed roof structure
- Cannot give up: shower in ground floor WC; staircase with straight steps; stairway outside the dirt zone; wardrobe
Why is the Design Like It Is?
Lots of reading layout reviews here, input from builder friends; about 100 hours of drawing floor plans
- What makes it especially good or bad in your view?
In our opinion, very efficient use of space in a relatively small house, pleasant hallway layout
What Is the Most Important / Basic Question About the Floor Plan Summarized in 130 Characters?
Is this floor plan practical?
Are there any major issues or deal-breakers we might have overlooked?
Attached are our own drawings from SketchUp / site plan from the development plan
Our plot is number [9]
Note: Unfortunately, windows are missing on the upper floor. There are planned windows on the gable ends sized 150 x 138cm (59 x 54 in), dormer windows each approx. 200 x 138cm (79 x 54 in), and in the stairwell, master bedroom, and bathroom an additional double casement window sized 78 x 160cm (31 x 63 in)
How large are the children's rooms once you subtract the partition walls? I only get about 11m² (118 ft²) here. And there are still sloped ceilings to consider. I think that's quite small. I would rather skip the walk-in closet – but of course, everyone has their own preferences.
Moving the door would be easy.
Moving the door would be easy.
Hi Katja
Including the boxed-in areas by the beds, SketchUp calculates a remaining floor area of 13.55 m² (146 sq ft) and 13.36 m² (144 sq ft), which is the net floor area excluding wardrobes and similar furniture.
If I add the extra gable on the stairwell side of the children’s room, the sizes change to 14.66 m² (158 sq ft) and 13.78 m² (148 sq ft).
Please disregard the rooms above, I am still adjusting the walk-in closet.
Yes, relocating the door ends up putting the stairs right next to the door entrance again. Also, I find it inconvenient to go upstairs directly from the kitchen.
Including the boxed-in areas by the beds, SketchUp calculates a remaining floor area of 13.55 m² (146 sq ft) and 13.36 m² (144 sq ft), which is the net floor area excluding wardrobes and similar furniture.
If I add the extra gable on the stairwell side of the children’s room, the sizes change to 14.66 m² (158 sq ft) and 13.78 m² (148 sq ft).
Please disregard the rooms above, I am still adjusting the walk-in closet.
Yes, relocating the door ends up putting the stairs right next to the door entrance again. Also, I find it inconvenient to go upstairs directly from the kitchen.
The first black beam directly at the exterior wall creates a wall height of 1m (3.3 ft), and the second one in front of it reaches a wall height of 1.30m (4.3 ft).
Precisely because so much space would be lost, we want to add an extra gable on both sides of the roof. The additional room gained is definitely significant.
Precisely because so much space would be lost, we want to add an extra gable on both sides of the roof. The additional room gained is definitely significant.
I have now tried, as you suggested, to make better use of the space in the gable area. It is now located in a high-traffic room.
What I’m still not completely happy with is that you might need to be careful at a sink because of the sloping roof behind it. According to SketchUp, the slope, measured centrally behind one of the sinks, is 1.76m (5 ft 9 in) — I am 1.72m (5 ft 8 in) tall, and my partner is 1.60m (5 ft 3 in). The slope is 85cm (33 inches) behind the sink, towards the bathtub.
There is now a “knee wall storage” area in the walk-in closet.
What I’m still not completely happy with is that you might need to be careful at a sink because of the sloping roof behind it. According to SketchUp, the slope, measured centrally behind one of the sinks, is 1.76m (5 ft 9 in) — I am 1.72m (5 ft 8 in) tall, and my partner is 1.60m (5 ft 3 in). The slope is 85cm (33 inches) behind the sink, towards the bathtub.
There is now a “knee wall storage” area in the walk-in closet.
modder schrieb:
Hi Katja [emoji4]
Including the boxed-in areas around the beds, SketchUp shows a remaining floor area of 13.55m² (146 sqft) and 13.36m² (144 sqft), which is the pure floor space without closets or similar.
If I add the extra gable on the stair side of the kids’ room, the sizes change to: 14.66m² (158 sqft) and 13.78m² (148 sqft)
Please disregard the rooms above for now; I’m still rearranging the walk-in closet [emoji6]
Yes, moving the door would result in the stairs leading directly up from the entrance again. Also, I find it impractical to go upstairs from the kitchen.The square meter figures aren’t correct, no matter how much or how little you box in, which can only create more usable space.
Living area is only counted from 2.00 meters (6 ft 7 in) or 2.30 meters (7 ft 7 in) ceiling height—depending on the region, I believe.
If we take a rounded 4 x 4 m (13 x 13 ft) for the room on the left and subtract the area under the sloped ceiling below 2 meters (6 ft 7 in)—which in your case is a 1.40 m (4 ft 7 in) room depth times 4 m (13 ft)—you end up with 10.4 m² (112 sqft).
The house is not very large! Most builders plan a larger ground floor since there is often a utility room, storage room, and an office included.
I would consider giving up the large staircase and/or the walk-in closet and/or moving the bedroom with walk-in closet to the basement, ideally with exposed strips of windows.
I’d say it’s time for a small crisis meeting to decide whether your wishes are worth providing the kids with very small bedrooms before continuing to juggle incorrect figures.
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