ᐅ Final stage floor plan: Is there still potential for improvement?
Created on: 16 Apr 2018 22:14
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modder
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 606m² (6519 sq ft)
Slope: slight north-facing slope (3m (10 ft) over 34m (112 ft) length)
House: south-north = 1m (3 ft) height difference
Site occupancy index: 0.35 (212m² (2282 sq ft))
Floor area ratio: 0.40 (242m² (2605 sq ft))
Building envelope: marked in blue (approx. 11.8 x 14.5m (39 x 48 ft))
Boundary construction allowed: no
Parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two full stories: ground floor + upper floor
Roof type: 38–42° (degrees) gable roof
Architectural style: traditional
Ridge orientation: south-north
Maximum heights / limits: northern eave-side wall height above natural ground level: 3.80m (12 ft 6 in)
Additional requirements: knee wall height from top of raw floor slab to bottom of wall plate 0.50m (70cm / 1 ft 8 in approx. inside)
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: all according to development plan
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 28 (female), 30 (male), plus at least 1 planned child
Space needs in basement: hobby room, utility room, pantry/storage, sauna planned later
Space needs on ground floor: living room, dining + kitchen, WC, hallway
Space needs on upper floor: master bedroom, dressing room, child 1 + child 2, hallway, bathroom
Office: home office!
Overnight guests per year: 3 guests at Easter and Christmas
Closed architecture
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen connected to dining room
Number of dining seats: 5
Living room fireplace: wall-mounted ethanol fireplace
Music / stereo wall: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: single or double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: hallway large enough to bring in and temporarily park a stroller, e.g., when it’s raining outside; staircase with 1m (3 ft 3 in) wide steps and easy to walk on (hence double landings); living room at least 4.5m (15 ft) wide; no direct connection between parents’ and children’s bedrooms; stairway not located in entryway dirt area; all interior doors with 985mm (39 in) clear opening; dining room: lift-and-slide door with 3m (10 ft) width
House Design
- Designer: do-it-yourself
- What do you particularly like about it? Why?
Double-landing staircase, kitchen and dining area facing south, circulation area on the north-east side; large glass window in dining room facing garden, G-shaped kitchen, enlargement of children’s rooms with dormer windows; hallway hopefully spacious-looking even though it could be a little wider
- What do you dislike? Why?
No room for a urinal in the ground floor bathroom
Basement not yet well planned, unsure how to properly separate a future sauna room
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: €425,000
- Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump / ground loop collector + mechanical ventilation with heat recovery + underfloor heating
If You Have to Give Up Anything, on which details / features
- Could give up: exposed roof structure
- Cannot give up: shower in ground floor WC; staircase with straight steps; stairway outside the dirt zone; wardrobe
Why is the Design Like It Is?
Lots of reading layout reviews here, input from builder friends; about 100 hours of drawing floor plans
- What makes it especially good or bad in your view?
In our opinion, very efficient use of space in a relatively small house, pleasant hallway layout
What Is the Most Important / Basic Question About the Floor Plan Summarized in 130 Characters?
Is this floor plan practical?
Are there any major issues or deal-breakers we might have overlooked?
Attached are our own drawings from SketchUp / site plan from the development plan
Our plot is number [9]
Note: Unfortunately, windows are missing on the upper floor. There are planned windows on the gable ends sized 150 x 138cm (59 x 54 in), dormer windows each approx. 200 x 138cm (79 x 54 in), and in the stairwell, master bedroom, and bathroom an additional double casement window sized 78 x 160cm (31 x 63 in)
Plot size: 606m² (6519 sq ft)
Slope: slight north-facing slope (3m (10 ft) over 34m (112 ft) length)
House: south-north = 1m (3 ft) height difference
Site occupancy index: 0.35 (212m² (2282 sq ft))
Floor area ratio: 0.40 (242m² (2605 sq ft))
Building envelope: marked in blue (approx. 11.8 x 14.5m (39 x 48 ft))
Boundary construction allowed: no
Parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two full stories: ground floor + upper floor
Roof type: 38–42° (degrees) gable roof
Architectural style: traditional
Ridge orientation: south-north
Maximum heights / limits: northern eave-side wall height above natural ground level: 3.80m (12 ft 6 in)
Additional requirements: knee wall height from top of raw floor slab to bottom of wall plate 0.50m (70cm / 1 ft 8 in approx. inside)
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: all according to development plan
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 28 (female), 30 (male), plus at least 1 planned child
Space needs in basement: hobby room, utility room, pantry/storage, sauna planned later
Space needs on ground floor: living room, dining + kitchen, WC, hallway
Space needs on upper floor: master bedroom, dressing room, child 1 + child 2, hallway, bathroom
Office: home office!
Overnight guests per year: 3 guests at Easter and Christmas
Closed architecture
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen connected to dining room
Number of dining seats: 5
Living room fireplace: wall-mounted ethanol fireplace
Music / stereo wall: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: single or double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: hallway large enough to bring in and temporarily park a stroller, e.g., when it’s raining outside; staircase with 1m (3 ft 3 in) wide steps and easy to walk on (hence double landings); living room at least 4.5m (15 ft) wide; no direct connection between parents’ and children’s bedrooms; stairway not located in entryway dirt area; all interior doors with 985mm (39 in) clear opening; dining room: lift-and-slide door with 3m (10 ft) width
House Design
- Designer: do-it-yourself
- What do you particularly like about it? Why?
Double-landing staircase, kitchen and dining area facing south, circulation area on the north-east side; large glass window in dining room facing garden, G-shaped kitchen, enlargement of children’s rooms with dormer windows; hallway hopefully spacious-looking even though it could be a little wider
- What do you dislike? Why?
No room for a urinal in the ground floor bathroom
Basement not yet well planned, unsure how to properly separate a future sauna room
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: €425,000
- Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump / ground loop collector + mechanical ventilation with heat recovery + underfloor heating
If You Have to Give Up Anything, on which details / features
- Could give up: exposed roof structure
- Cannot give up: shower in ground floor WC; staircase with straight steps; stairway outside the dirt zone; wardrobe
Why is the Design Like It Is?
Lots of reading layout reviews here, input from builder friends; about 100 hours of drawing floor plans
- What makes it especially good or bad in your view?
In our opinion, very efficient use of space in a relatively small house, pleasant hallway layout
What Is the Most Important / Basic Question About the Floor Plan Summarized in 130 Characters?
Is this floor plan practical?
Are there any major issues or deal-breakers we might have overlooked?
Attached are our own drawings from SketchUp / site plan from the development plan
Our plot is number [9]
Note: Unfortunately, windows are missing on the upper floor. There are planned windows on the gable ends sized 150 x 138cm (59 x 54 in), dormer windows each approx. 200 x 138cm (79 x 54 in), and in the stairwell, master bedroom, and bathroom an additional double casement window sized 78 x 160cm (31 x 63 in)
According to the current DIN 277 (2016?), sloped ceilings are not included in the calculation of the room area in square meters.
But of course, I understand what you mean. The house has not been built yet. Being half a meter (about 1.6 feet) wider or longer should not be a problem.
But of course, I understand what you mean. The house has not been built yet. Being half a meter (about 1.6 feet) wider or longer should not be a problem.
It’s great that you brought up the room in the basement again.
We had already considered that option before.
Especially since we plan to increase the ceiling height in the basement to 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in) from the unfinished floor to the underside of the ceiling, and there will also be underfloor heating throughout the basement.
Oh dear, things are getting colorful again
We had already considered that option before.
Especially since we plan to increase the ceiling height in the basement to 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in) from the unfinished floor to the underside of the ceiling, and there will also be underfloor heating throughout the basement.
Oh dear, things are getting colorful again
kaho674 schrieb:
I think 10m² (108 sq ft) plus 4m² (43 sq ft) under the sloped ceiling is still reasonable for a child's bedroom. But of course, that’s a matter of opinion. My parents told me the following a few weeks ago:
They had planned a 25m² (269 sq ft) children's room for me on the upper floor during the construction. When I was old enough to have my own room, I moved in but wanted to move out again after less than four weeks because the room felt too big to me. (I don’t really remember that.)
Later, when I was about 14, I moved down to the basement with two southeast-facing windows – the best room for me, because I could be as loud as I wanted and my parents were sleeping upstairs.
modder schrieb:
Later, when I was about 14, I moved down to the basement with two southeast-facing windows – the best room for me because I could be as loud as I wanted while my parents were sleeping upstairs.That’s great for kids when there are enough windows.I need to reiterate my point that square meters alone don’t mean much; it’s the usability and furniture layout that really matter.
In your last floor plan, you can clearly see what I mean:
One bed is placed in the dormer directly under the window (and if it were a floor-to-ceiling window, I would find that even worse). I wouldn’t want to sleep there, with the feeling of nothing above my head, the door right at the foot of the bed, and anyone who enters immediately right in my main retreat—the bed. (For me, this is really about the feelings and comfort of the space.)
Because of the windows in the children’s rooms located right next to the partition wall, it’s not possible to place longer wardrobes there, as they would block the window or prevent it from opening.
I would skip the door between the dressing room and the bathroom. It takes up space in both rooms and often creates the issue of whether you want to lock both doors or deal with unlocking them. Unless you invest in some technical solutions that allow simultaneous locking, or you never lock them anyway (and can teach your children not to lock them).
Edit, just read this: regardless of whether it is included in the building permit/planning permission or not, if a basement room is ever intended to be used as a bedroom, the emergency escape routes must comply with regulations. No matter how unlikely, if someone ever dies down there, it won’t bring any relief.
In your last floor plan, you can clearly see what I mean:
One bed is placed in the dormer directly under the window (and if it were a floor-to-ceiling window, I would find that even worse). I wouldn’t want to sleep there, with the feeling of nothing above my head, the door right at the foot of the bed, and anyone who enters immediately right in my main retreat—the bed. (For me, this is really about the feelings and comfort of the space.)
Because of the windows in the children’s rooms located right next to the partition wall, it’s not possible to place longer wardrobes there, as they would block the window or prevent it from opening.
I would skip the door between the dressing room and the bathroom. It takes up space in both rooms and often creates the issue of whether you want to lock both doors or deal with unlocking them. Unless you invest in some technical solutions that allow simultaneous locking, or you never lock them anyway (and can teach your children not to lock them).
Edit, just read this: regardless of whether it is included in the building permit/planning permission or not, if a basement room is ever intended to be used as a bedroom, the emergency escape routes must comply with regulations. No matter how unlikely, if someone ever dies down there, it won’t bring any relief.
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