Hello everyone,
We now have the first draft of our floor plan.
North is to the left.
Building envelope 10 x 12 m (33 x 39 ft)
The garage may only be placed where the cars are drawn.
No basement. I imagine a passage from the utility room to the garage and use the garage as a basement replacement (probably cheaper, but I will get quotes for both options).
I would prefer the kitchen and dining area to be on the east side (morning sun for breakfast), but that is difficult to implement if the garage is built there. We are also unsure whether to separate the kitchen and/or dining area from the living room.
Further information:
Low-energy house, lots of insulation, controlled mechanical ventilation, and geothermal heating.
Solid construction – free from an architect.
Please feel free to share suggestions, ideas, and improvements.
This is only a very first draft.
Thanks and best regards,
Peter
We now have the first draft of our floor plan.
North is to the left.
Building envelope 10 x 12 m (33 x 39 ft)
The garage may only be placed where the cars are drawn.
No basement. I imagine a passage from the utility room to the garage and use the garage as a basement replacement (probably cheaper, but I will get quotes for both options).
I would prefer the kitchen and dining area to be on the east side (morning sun for breakfast), but that is difficult to implement if the garage is built there. We are also unsure whether to separate the kitchen and/or dining area from the living room.
Further information:
Low-energy house, lots of insulation, controlled mechanical ventilation, and geothermal heating.
Solid construction – free from an architect.
Please feel free to share suggestions, ideas, and improvements.
This is only a very first draft.
Thanks and best regards,
Peter
f-pNo schrieb:
Putting aside the fact that custom-made windows can be quite expensive. Nowadays, all windows in new buildings are custom-made, and unusual sizes or triangular shapes are not significantly more expensive.
We also have a special window with a corner, and we didn’t pay a single penny extra 😀
Regarding the design, I just want to say that I don’t like it. The entrance area is too narrow. The kitchen entrance is too far from the main door, and the toilets remind me of old apartments in Hamburg where shower bathrooms were squeezed into storage rooms just one meter wide (severe lack of space: toilets placed sideways).
Waste pipes should be aligned vertically so that toilet waste can drain properly... the one meter through the guest WC wouldn’t affect the connections, but the location of the bathroom above...
ypg schrieb:
Nowadays, all windows in new builds are custom-made, and special sizes or triangular shapes don’t cost significantly more.
We also have a special window with a corner, and we didn’t pay a penny extra 😀 Ah – so the windows upstairs don’t cost extra then. I wasn’t aware of that.
ypg schrieb:
Regarding the design, I just want to say that I don’t like it. The entrance area is too narrow. The kitchen entrance is too far from the main entrance, and the toilets remind me of old apartments in Hamburg where shower bathrooms were squeezed into storage rooms only one meter wide (severe space shortage: toilets placed sideways).
Waste pipes should be aligned vertically to ensure proper drainage from the toilets... the one meter through the guest bathroom wouldn’t affect the connections, but the location of the upstairs bathroom... Bathrooms stacked vertically. OK – then the storage room would need to switch places with the office and shower bathroom.
On the other hand, I don’t see a problem (except slightly higher costs) with installing a second plumbing line.
The space issue in the ground floor hallway can be solved easily – if the original poster is open to changing the shower bathroom into a standard guest toilet. The toilet could then be placed along the back wall. Then just add about 50cm (20 inches) from the guest bathroom and office to the hallway – problem solved. :o
@f-pNo: His architect said that the rooms cannot be swapped 😎 I just generalized a bit 😉
And there was a standard guest toilet without a shower in the initial plan – but no study room... instead, there was a laundry niche on the upper floor, which I really liked. Positioned just outside the bathroom, it was a convenient spot.
By the way, why did you choose to have the roof over the short side and not the gables?
The room on the left seems much smaller than 1 square meter (10.8 square feet) to me.
And there was a standard guest toilet without a shower in the initial plan – but no study room... instead, there was a laundry niche on the upper floor, which I really liked. Positioned just outside the bathroom, it was a convenient spot.
By the way, why did you choose to have the roof over the short side and not the gables?
The room on the left seems much smaller than 1 square meter (10.8 square feet) to me.
ypg schrieb:
@f-pNo: His architect said the rooms cannot be swapped 😎 Hmm – being able to read carefully definitely has its advantages. 😉 Well, it was a long day.
I probably should have read through the entire thread again. I had only focused on the latest draft. 🙄
J
Justifier13 Nov 2013 08:18I think you’re wasting a lot of space. For example, I would keep the bathroom and toilet separate on the upper floor and plan for a much larger shower in the bathroom.
Besides that, in my opinion, you’re simply using space inefficiently, for instance the two “dance halls” you call children’s rooms—they are at least 7-8 sqm (75-85 sq ft) too large. Even in the bedroom, there's enough space between the bed and wardrobe to practice the Viennese waltz; with the saved space from the children’s rooms and bedroom, I would rather plan for a walk-in closet or dressing room.
The mini kitchen island is also far from optimal. Consider switching to a double-row kitchen layout—that might be much more practical. With the small cooking area, you have no workspace on either side, and there’s a constant risk of someone’s sleeve or sweater catching on the pan handle and pulling the hot pan down.
Honestly, I would take another look at the design and radically change it.
Besides that, in my opinion, you’re simply using space inefficiently, for instance the two “dance halls” you call children’s rooms—they are at least 7-8 sqm (75-85 sq ft) too large. Even in the bedroom, there's enough space between the bed and wardrobe to practice the Viennese waltz; with the saved space from the children’s rooms and bedroom, I would rather plan for a walk-in closet or dressing room.
The mini kitchen island is also far from optimal. Consider switching to a double-row kitchen layout—that might be much more practical. With the small cooking area, you have no workspace on either side, and there’s a constant risk of someone’s sleeve or sweater catching on the pan handle and pulling the hot pan down.
Honestly, I would take another look at the design and radically change it.
P
PeterLustig4913 Nov 2013 08:57f-pNo schrieb:
Is there a specific reason for having two sliding doors? It doesn’t make much sense to me—just extra cost. One is enough.We saw a similar layout in a show home. We liked it quite a bit. But I’m still not completely satisfied with it. Instead of the patio door, I’m thinking of installing a long window with a countertop in front. When prepping ingredients, I definitely need good lighting! Having the sink by the window also makes a lot of sense...
Yes... the kitchen is still a work in progress.
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