ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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pffreestyler
Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
No, definitely don’t scrunch it up.
Whether the visitor uses door A or B is their choice.
But I came back from the countryside yesterday, had been planting, was dirty, back door, shoes off, pants off, straight to the Bosch washer, washed my hands in the utility sink, dried on the dirty work pants... essential comfort. A kitchen where you can sit, eat, and chat is indispensable, a kitchen table for drinking coffee, peeling crab, covered with a oilcloth—this is Schleswig-Holstein. Sacrifice all that just because some call it outdated? Then so be it, being outdated isn’t a problem. Karsten
Whether the visitor uses door A or B is their choice.
But I came back from the countryside yesterday, had been planting, was dirty, back door, shoes off, pants off, straight to the Bosch washer, washed my hands in the utility sink, dried on the dirty work pants... essential comfort. A kitchen where you can sit, eat, and chat is indispensable, a kitchen table for drinking coffee, peeling crab, covered with a oilcloth—this is Schleswig-Holstein. Sacrifice all that just because some call it outdated? Then so be it, being outdated isn’t a problem. Karsten
There is a lack of space.
There is nothing against an open-plan kitchen-living area, which should then be properly sized, and a second dining table taken out of the living room.
A second door takes up space and room for furniture. You can also take off dirty shoes at one entrance and wash your hands two steps away.
The original poster is building a three-room apartment including stairs and building services. The total floor area of an 80 m² (860 sq ft) apartment does not allow for more.
There is nothing against an open-plan kitchen-living area, which should then be properly sized, and a second dining table taken out of the living room.
A second door takes up space and room for furniture. You can also take off dirty shoes at one entrance and wash your hands two steps away.
The original poster is building a three-room apartment including stairs and building services. The total floor area of an 80 m² (860 sq ft) apartment does not allow for more.
11ant schrieb:
Could the "z" please be written in lowercase, out of respect for the victims of the Shoah? Thank you @11ant, I was thinking the same thing. Alternatively, just "children's room"...
Nordlys schrieb:
That wasn’t the reason I showed it. It’s an example of a usable staircase that doesn’t take up too much space. I understood that already. Your staircase is a prime example of how to combine space efficiency with good accessibility. Still, I think it’s worthwhile to consider the entire floor plan and see if it fits here as well.
Nordlys schrieb:
Back door, shoes off, pants off, straight into the Bosch, paws washed in the utility sink, dried on the dirty laundry… indispensable comfort. Most of the time when I come home, I’m not coming back from gardening. Maybe that’s why I go through the front door so often.
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If you have little or no space and money is tight, you have to make the most of what you have. You can’t afford to double up on everything or show off a lot of space.
I come home _every_ day from work or elsewhere. I enjoy my well-kept entryway, which welcomes everyone, including myself. If I’ve spent a few days at the spa or working in the garden, I go through the back somewhere via the terrace door or even through the front door with the key left in the lock from outside. Shoes and pants are taken off outside. You can make things more complicated than they need to be.
Tip: don’t focus on the few times a year but on everyday life.
Building a closed kitchen just because once a year you have a cozy kitchen party? Forget it.
A guest room for two guests? No, a hotel is cheaper.
Focus on why you’re building, the fundamental advantages a home offers your family, and make the best of your available budget. Don’t hold on to strange ideas about habits; daily life naturally adjusts in the new house. But make sure the basics are right.
I don’t see a daily routine here that makes sense (getting up along the wall, can’t reach the closet, can’t open the bedroom window anyway, bathroom near the front door, then into the kitchen, maybe back to the living room for another Nutella sandwich, check everything, including the TV, then coffee again, a long hallway keeps you fit... and always that appendix staring at you [emoji848]).
I come home _every_ day from work or elsewhere. I enjoy my well-kept entryway, which welcomes everyone, including myself. If I’ve spent a few days at the spa or working in the garden, I go through the back somewhere via the terrace door or even through the front door with the key left in the lock from outside. Shoes and pants are taken off outside. You can make things more complicated than they need to be.
Tip: don’t focus on the few times a year but on everyday life.
Building a closed kitchen just because once a year you have a cozy kitchen party? Forget it.
A guest room for two guests? No, a hotel is cheaper.
Focus on why you’re building, the fundamental advantages a home offers your family, and make the best of your available budget. Don’t hold on to strange ideas about habits; daily life naturally adjusts in the new house. But make sure the basics are right.
I don’t see a daily routine here that makes sense (getting up along the wall, can’t reach the closet, can’t open the bedroom window anyway, bathroom near the front door, then into the kitchen, maybe back to the living room for another Nutella sandwich, check everything, including the TV, then coffee again, a long hallway keeps you fit... and always that appendix staring at you [emoji848]).
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pffreestyler31 Mar 2018 11:45Please don’t consider me as unwilling to take advice, but I’m afraid we won’t quite reach an agreement here.
Reducing to just one door is not an option for us. This actually seems to be a regional peculiarity (which I hadn’t been aware of until now), but we do not want to do without a door in the utility room.
However, we will follow nordlys’ suggestion: the children’s room will only be accessible through the living room, and we will extend the living room wall up to the bedroom. This will eliminate the awkward corner in the hallway and remove the corner in the bedroom. Additionally, we should rotate the bed by 90 degrees to improve access to the window.
Reducing to just one door is not an option for us. This actually seems to be a regional peculiarity (which I hadn’t been aware of until now), but we do not want to do without a door in the utility room.
However, we will follow nordlys’ suggestion: the children’s room will only be accessible through the living room, and we will extend the living room wall up to the bedroom. This will eliminate the awkward corner in the hallway and remove the corner in the bedroom. Additionally, we should rotate the bed by 90 degrees to improve access to the window.
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