ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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pffreestyler
Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
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pffreestyler28 Mar 2018 16:41I think I wasn’t very clear about the table. Yes, it will only be used as a dining table when guests are around, but I should add that it’s not just for that – we also enjoy playing various games like Phase 10, Settlers of Catan, etc. Additionally, I sometimes play poker or Cego with a few friends, where we take turns playing. The table is needed for these activities as well.
- Regarding the windows: I agree with you, the west and east walls are too plain. Therefore, the window in the kitchen/dining area will be moved from the south to the west wall. Additionally, there will likely be a second window added either to the kitchen or the living room on the east side.
- Kitchen and utility room swap: I understand your reasoning – my girlfriend initially also wanted the kitchen connected to the living room, but I’m afraid that would reduce the available counter space too much. I definitely want a window facing the street – the utility room is planned to have cabinet space for food storage, which would conflict with a window there. Also, putting a door between the kitchen and living room would reduce a wall in the living room that could be used for furniture.
A sink in the utility room is a good idea and will be noted.
- Kitchen/dining area: I didn’t initially think it was ideal either, but it’s not intended to be a fully finished kitchen/dining space at first – it’s temporary until the upper floor is completed. After that, it will be converted back into an office.
The upper floor isn’t 100% planned yet, but the builder told us this still needs to be coordinated before construction starts so that it’s clear how it will be set up later. I hope there will be enough budget left to bring bulky materials like drywall (gypsum board) up there in advance so that my father and I can start the rough construction early.
@Nordlys: is not from the structural team but from the contractor.
- Regarding the windows: I agree with you, the west and east walls are too plain. Therefore, the window in the kitchen/dining area will be moved from the south to the west wall. Additionally, there will likely be a second window added either to the kitchen or the living room on the east side.
- Kitchen and utility room swap: I understand your reasoning – my girlfriend initially also wanted the kitchen connected to the living room, but I’m afraid that would reduce the available counter space too much. I definitely want a window facing the street – the utility room is planned to have cabinet space for food storage, which would conflict with a window there. Also, putting a door between the kitchen and living room would reduce a wall in the living room that could be used for furniture.
A sink in the utility room is a good idea and will be noted.
- Kitchen/dining area: I didn’t initially think it was ideal either, but it’s not intended to be a fully finished kitchen/dining space at first – it’s temporary until the upper floor is completed. After that, it will be converted back into an office.
The upper floor isn’t 100% planned yet, but the builder told us this still needs to be coordinated before construction starts so that it’s clear how it will be set up later. I hope there will be enough budget left to bring bulky materials like drywall (gypsum board) up there in advance so that my father and I can start the rough construction early.
@Nordlys: is not from the structural team but from the contractor.
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pffreestyler28 Mar 2018 17:11I don’t see the entrance area’s dirt zone as problematic either. That’s what the utility room is for. From my experience, it’s used about 95% of the time—only at the front when people ring the doorbell.
Is the way of thinking so different here in the North compared to the South, for example? [emoji16]
Is the way of thinking so different here in the North compared to the South, for example? [emoji16]
The basic concept with the potential for expansion above is good. Also, the classic house shape works well. The floor plan, however, is a mess at every turn. The utility room is located between the kitchen and living room—there’s still room for improvement there. The bedroom has no door to the bathroom, meaning the children’s room could be placed in between; maybe this already resolves the awkward corner. The living room door opening into the hallway is a bad choice. The window arrangement shows a lack of design sensitivity for the façades.
I would consider building monolithically. With facing brick, external thermal insulation composite systems (ETICS or EIFS) are somewhat less of a problem, but for the extra cost of the brick, you might be better off increasing the living area by several square meters.
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I would consider building monolithically. With facing brick, external thermal insulation composite systems (ETICS or EIFS) are somewhat less of a problem, but for the extra cost of the brick, you might be better off increasing the living area by several square meters.
pffreestyler schrieb:Could the “z” please be written in lowercase here, as a mark of respect for the victims of the Shoah?
KZ unten ist nur für den Anfang gedacht.
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Maria has described it well.
The bedroom is fantastic [emoji85][emoji33]
The access to the children’s room is great too. The kitchen should be as far away as possible from the living room... with the utility room in between, catching the morning sun.
A luxury hallway with a staircase that leads nowhere, at least for the first 10 years.
Windows are placed somewhat randomly; you could almost turn the house into a row house given how scarce they are on the east and west sides.
The window in the bedroom is really outstanding...
Since you’re also unhappy with the roof orientation, here’s a suggestion:
Move the utility room to the upper floor, then rearrange the rest a bit—make the bedroom larger with window access. The children’s room could be slightly bigger, which will be appreciated later if it’s used as an office.
Shift the path between the bedroom and bathroom out of the direct line of sight from the entrance... otherwise, the postman might ring twice [emoji6]
The bedroom is fantastic [emoji85][emoji33]
The access to the children’s room is great too. The kitchen should be as far away as possible from the living room... with the utility room in between, catching the morning sun.
A luxury hallway with a staircase that leads nowhere, at least for the first 10 years.
Windows are placed somewhat randomly; you could almost turn the house into a row house given how scarce they are on the east and west sides.
The window in the bedroom is really outstanding...
Since you’re also unhappy with the roof orientation, here’s a suggestion:
Move the utility room to the upper floor, then rearrange the rest a bit—make the bedroom larger with window access. The children’s room could be slightly bigger, which will be appreciated later if it’s used as an office.
Shift the path between the bedroom and bathroom out of the direct line of sight from the entrance... otherwise, the postman might ring twice [emoji6]
pffreestyler schrieb:
I don’t see the dirt area at the entrance as a problem either. That’s exactly what the utility room is for. From what I know, it’s used about 95% of the time—only the front entrance is used when people ring the doorbell.
Is the mindset here in the North really that different compared to, for example, the South? [emoji16]Well, I’m the type of person who enjoys their entrance every day, not just when guests arrive.
My utility room is a storage and technical room—I don’t want to come home to it.
ypg schrieb:
My utility room is a storage and technical room: I don’t want to come home through there. Exactly. You don’t enter the home through the service entrance when shifting from work mode to family life—that’s just unromantic.
pffreestyler schrieb:
We only adapted it slightly to our needs Could you please show the original version? Are there already any thoughts about the layout of the upper floor, or what was the reasoning behind the placement of the staircase? Is the original version also designed with no or only a small knee wall?
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