ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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pffreestyler
Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Nordlys schrieb:
Attacked... well, on top of that, I think I’m the only one who can truly understand them.No, Karsten.
This floor plan under discussion has very little in common with yours. The only similarity is that it mentions a single living level.
You don’t have a utility room between the kitchen and the living room, no narrow corridor, a proper hallway with a relatively large staircase, no main bathroom right at the entrance, and two nice bedrooms that don’t open off the living room.
Besides, there are two of you and you’re not planning to have children.
If I had completely different living preferences and had to buy a new place and ended up with your house, I could knock down two walls and still be very happy.
I can even imagine having a desk in your hallway, but unfortunately not in a passage hallway like here.
I would never plan a children's room next to the living room. When the child finally falls asleep in the evening, you don’t want to have to be constantly quiet in the living room to avoid waking them up. It’s also very uncomfortable when you have guests and want to sit peacefully but have to keep asking for quiet so the baby doesn’t get disturbed.
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pffreestyler1 Apr 2018 21:05Nordlys schrieb:
One more tip. For the unfinished attic, install a patio door up there. Also, put one or two Velux windows in the roof right away. That provides light in the hallway, and such a door won’t warp. If you finish the attic, the door won’t be needed there anymore and can be reused in the greenhouse or something else. There’s always some use for it.Yes, the door will definitely be installed. Otherwise, too much heat escapes…Velux windows are planned for the hallway; we’ll see if a second one makes sense.
Maria16 schrieb:
[…] and if own wishes (like a rotated ridge) are suddenly dropped again just so nothing else has to be changed, I see no reason or necessity to continue the discussion. Admittedly, postponing the request for a rotated ridge might seem a bit odd to outsiders now. But I have to say that as days pass, my concerns are diminishing. I think what bothered me at first was simply that I’m not used to it. Changing the floor plan now solely to satisfy my habit, which is fading day by day anyway, no longer seems very sensible. Especially since the view from the child’s room looking south towards the orchard and the forest, instead of the neighbor’s house, is quite nice.
Maria16 schrieb:
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But there is a difference between building for a future family with small children or for two people approaching retirement.
To the original poster: it does not matter to me how your house turns out in the end. I could also care less whether you make the child’s room accessible from the living room and whether your child handles the “noise” well or not. It has to work for you in the end, and if your own wishes (like a rotated ridge) are suddenly dropped just so nothing else has to be changed, I see no reason or necessity to continue the discussion. Arifas schrieb:
I would never plan a child’s room next to the living room. When the child finally falls asleep in the evening, you don’t want to always have to be very quiet in the living room so they won’t wake up. If you have guests and want to sit peacefully, but have to constantly ask everyone to be quiet so the baby doesn’t wake, it’s really uncomfortable.I feel that sometimes we’re talking past each other. Maybe because not everyone has read the entire thread or I haven’t expressed myself clearly. Anyway. From your comments, it always sounds like the small room on the ground floor is intended as a permanent child’s room. This is not planned! It is only meant as a nursery during infancy; before and after, the room will be a normal office. If there are visitors in the evening, the baby will just be in the bedroom then. Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t really see a problem there.
It’s similar with the utility room and the door. Almost everyone objects, but to me, it just belongs there. Maybe people in the north just think differently?
If you want to watch TV in the living room in the evening and the baby is a bit sensitive to noise, then you put the baby in the bedroom? Well, sure. You can do that if necessary. But if I’m building new, I wouldn’t plan for such difficulties without a good reason?!
I don’t know, I think the layout design would involve way too many compromises for me.
I don’t know, I think the layout design would involve way too many compromises for me.
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