ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Aug 2017 00:15I am not yet familiar with the new cost estimate. I believe it will be cheaper than the previous plan with its structural challenges. This way, we would have more budget left for the kitchen, proper interior fittings, technology, and so on.
Honestly, I wouldn’t know what to commission differently at this point. The house now roughly matches the ideas we originally discussed with the architect. His design was an attempt to convince us with something different. It almost worked… but only almost…
He asked us to try something of his own, a different approach, and we agreed to that. But once it became clear that the design we had even approved didn’t fit, and there was only an attempt to trim down the design—losing its original character in the process—not to mention the criticism here about foreseeable construction defects…
To be honest, I don’t see any way forward. I couldn’t show another house and say, “This is how it should look.” Besides, it’s always a matter of compromise between husband and wife.
Honestly, I wouldn’t know what to commission differently at this point. The house now roughly matches the ideas we originally discussed with the architect. His design was an attempt to convince us with something different. It almost worked… but only almost…
He asked us to try something of his own, a different approach, and we agreed to that. But once it became clear that the design we had even approved didn’t fit, and there was only an attempt to trim down the design—losing its original character in the process—not to mention the criticism here about foreseeable construction defects…
To be honest, I don’t see any way forward. I couldn’t show another house and say, “This is how it should look.” Besides, it’s always a matter of compromise between husband and wife.
Traumfaenger schrieb:
I can only agree with Winnetou78 here. EUR 800,000 for an urban villa with a hip roof seems like an unreasonable price to me. Grant me the favor, and let me be the third in your group
However, one can hope that the construction will be somewhat cheaper without so many structural complications.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The house now looks roughly like when we initially discussed our ideas with the architect. His design was an attempt to convince us with something different. [...] He asked to try something unique and different; we agreed to that. Such things are better left to an architect’s own house. Imagine if it had been technically and economically feasible to build: then you would have ended up living in the architect’s dream home (!)
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Aug 2017 00:2011ant schrieb:
Grant me the favor, so let me be the third in your circle Requesting an alternative design could be possible. However, I don’t see any starting point for that at all. And now just letting creativity run free once again...? Under what premise? Bauhaus style but we don’t want a box shape? Then we automatically end up back at the structural problems.
If someone sees an approach, they are welcome to share it. Otherwise, we’re just going around in circles.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
We want Bauhaus style but not cube shape However, T-bone tofu schnitzel doesn’t exist; in Bauhaus (even pseudo-) there is always cubism involved.
But if the half-hipped roof style is your taste: go ahead. Whether that will achieve uniqueness, I’m not so sure; it might be that you’re starting a new trend and in five years everyone will want it that way.
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Aug 2017 00:37So uniqueness is only possible in connection with Bauhaus / Cubism?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
So uniqueness is only possible with Bauhaus / Cubism?Certainly not, but you need to be clear about what you want and communicate that to the builder. They cannot read your mind or interpret special requests if they are not clearly expressed. I reread the early parts of the thread yesterday: even up to/in post #7 within about 10 lines, it wasn’t clear that you didn’t want what was being drawn.
I assume this is a major communication issue, and you are not entirely blameless.
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