ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Aug 2017 00:54ypg schrieb:
I assume there is a major communication problem, for which you are not entirely blameless.That may be true. The architect had also suggested that we should first properly plan the spatial layout; the exterior design can always be adjusted later as desired.
ypg schrieb:
I read the early part of the thread yesterday: even up to/in post #7 in about 10 lines it wasn’t clear that you didn’t want what was drawn.I couldn’t quite follow that.
I don’t think there was a major communication problem. After all, we had a draft that was approved for detailed planning—until the engineer and some forum members vetoed it because of structural drawbacks. As laypersons, we weren’t aware of that... as it was visualized, we would have loved to build it. The adjustments then seemed intentional rather than skillful—the proportions no longer matched, etc.—so it was decided to go with a more conventional and, above all, structurally secure design.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
So uniqueness is only possible in connection with Bauhaus / Cubism? No, Bauhaus does not exist without Cubism; however, uniqueness without Bauhaus certainly does — in fact, especially with style mixing.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The architect also suggested that we should first properly plan the room layout; the exterior appearance can be adjusted later, That’s exactly my point, the finishing touches come last.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I couldn’t quite follow that. In post number 7, there is a ten-line passage (the third part of your reply to Maria16) where it becomes clear for the first time that the architect’s proposal conceptually differs from your original sketch.
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Aug 2017 01:32Something different. 11ant, you once said that the eaves overhang of the hipped roof looks more substantial in reality than in the sketch.
We imagine it roughly like the hipped roof house 208 on Luxhaus’s website. Unfortunately, I’m not allowed to link it here. That’s also how we had envisioned it for the flat roof version, which later turned out to be impossible or very difficult to achieve.
We imagine it roughly like the hipped roof house 208 on Luxhaus’s website. Unfortunately, I’m not allowed to link it here. That’s also how we had envisioned it for the flat roof version, which later turned out to be impossible or very difficult to achieve.
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Aug 2017 11:26My wife and I have gone through everything again carefully; we also looked at various houses in the townhouse and Bauhaus style on different websites. The conclusion is that we are satisfied with the latest design and haven’t found any real alternatives that impress us. Of course, some minor adjustments can still be made, but the basic concept works. I prefer the flatter hipped roof, while my wife likes the more classic hipped roof. That still needs to be decided, but it’s not a major issue.
All in all, building a house is always about compromises and finding the smallest common denominator. By now, my wife has also accepted the hipped roof (unless the building permit/planning permission authority says otherwise). So I think it fits well.
There were concerns from 11ant that the space between the kitchen and the basement stairs might be too small. We’ll find out on Thursday. It’s possible that the current concept could fail for this reason. How much space should be required there?
All in all, building a house is always about compromises and finding the smallest common denominator. By now, my wife has also accepted the hipped roof (unless the building permit/planning permission authority says otherwise). So I think it fits well.
There were concerns from 11ant that the space between the kitchen and the basement stairs might be too small. We’ll find out on Thursday. It’s possible that the current concept could fail for this reason. How much space should be required there?
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Aug 2017 13:05Try searching for "urban villa in Bauhaus style Vorderbrüggen."
I think it’s not that unusual to combine styles in this way. I really like the house shown there. Despite the hip roof, it has even more "Bauhaus" elements than our design.
You can probably finish it with brick cladding or partial brick cladding. Or come up with another idea to move away from the white, maintenance-intensive exterior facade.
I think it’s not that unusual to combine styles in this way. I really like the house shown there. Despite the hip roof, it has even more "Bauhaus" elements than our design.
You can probably finish it with brick cladding or partial brick cladding. Or come up with another idea to move away from the white, maintenance-intensive exterior facade.
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Traumfaenger19 Aug 2017 13:22R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Try searching for "city villa in Bauhaus style Vorderbrüggen". Even with a hip roof, it shows more "Bauhaus" features than our design.Personally, I wouldn’t describe this building as Bauhaus and don’t see any elements of the Bauhaus style there.
In recent years, the Bauhaus style has become quite popular, and many sellers use the term, but often these are just simple box-shaped buildings with or without flat roofs and a splash of anthracite on the facade. To me, that doesn’t reflect Bauhaus.
Nevertheless, if you have found what you are looking for, no matter how it’s called, that’s what matters!
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