ᐅ Preliminary Planning with the Architect – Is Having Your Own Floor Plan Helpful?
Created on: 14 Dec 2013 20:56
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Ben1000
Good evening, dear forum community,
Next week, we will start the preliminary design phase with the architect. My mind has been busy with the house topic for months, meaning, of course, that I have many ideas and a clear personal vision for the house. I have played around with my own hand sketches for the exterior appearance, and I have also thought extensively about the room layout.
Now, I know that many architects here in the forum tend to view homeowners’ attempts at floor plan design, to put it mildly, quite critically. However, I couldn’t resist using the planning software myself. I put all my ideas into one draft. I can’t really tell if it’s complete nonsense or if it possibly contains something useful for the planning process.
The question I have now is: should I just leave the floor plan in the drawer, or should I actually show it to the architect? Would it be better to let the architect find a solution without any preconceptions? Or is it better to present my (our) ideas using the self-made floor plan and then let the architect develop something from it (maybe even something completely different)?
What do you think?
Many thanks and best regards
Ben
Next week, we will start the preliminary design phase with the architect. My mind has been busy with the house topic for months, meaning, of course, that I have many ideas and a clear personal vision for the house. I have played around with my own hand sketches for the exterior appearance, and I have also thought extensively about the room layout.
Now, I know that many architects here in the forum tend to view homeowners’ attempts at floor plan design, to put it mildly, quite critically. However, I couldn’t resist using the planning software myself. I put all my ideas into one draft. I can’t really tell if it’s complete nonsense or if it possibly contains something useful for the planning process.
The question I have now is: should I just leave the floor plan in the drawer, or should I actually show it to the architect? Would it be better to let the architect find a solution without any preconceptions? Or is it better to present my (our) ideas using the self-made floor plan and then let the architect develop something from it (maybe even something completely different)?
What do you think?
Many thanks and best regards
Ben
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Wanderdüne16 Dec 2013 01:39In our concern for the forum, we actually agree (let’s discuss your exaggerated protective instinct better via private message).
Therefore, I find this statement more than worrying:
This floor plan is by no means suitable as an emergency backup in this case!
Hiring architects and contract drafting (keyword, for example, phased contract) must be carefully prepared to be prepared, among other things, for the case that no viable design is produced. Pay attention to the official fee scale for architects and engineers (HOAI) and consider having the contract reviewed externally if necessary.
Regards
WD
Therefore, I find this statement more than worrying:
kaho674 schrieb:
And if you don’t like it, you can always pull out the sketch. But I don’t think it will come to that.
This floor plan is by no means suitable as an emergency backup in this case!
Hiring architects and contract drafting (keyword, for example, phased contract) must be carefully prepared to be prepared, among other things, for the case that no viable design is produced. Pay attention to the official fee scale for architects and engineers (HOAI) and consider having the contract reviewed externally if necessary.
Regards
WD
Wanderdüne schrieb:
(about your exaggerated protective instinct, better to discuss that by private message). Why? I’m not interested in teaching you basic manners. Since you clearly lack any sensitivity and completely misunderstand situations, that would be a huge task.
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Justifier16 Dec 2013 09:59Our planner asked during the initial meeting about rooms that absolutely needed to be included in the design and then went through each individual room with us regarding the requirements. Additionally, he also asked about general requirements (e.g., for the hallway, utility room, etc.) and then took some time to create a first draft. And that was already very promising...
I would definitely follow this approach again and also recommend it (if the planner is competent).
I would definitely follow this approach again and also recommend it (if the planner is competent).
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Wanderdüne16 Dec 2013 11:07@ kaho674
I had hoped that the sequence: sleeping -> writing a post
would benefit the quality of your post... Well, I remain optimistic nonetheless.
One more thing, also for those who read this later: It can sometimes be difficult to tell when the sales phase has ended and the architect’s commission begins (even without written form). Therefore, ask about this during the initial meeting to avoid disputes later on.
Best regards
WD
I had hoped that the sequence: sleeping -> writing a post
would benefit the quality of your post... Well, I remain optimistic nonetheless.
One more thing, also for those who read this later: It can sometimes be difficult to tell when the sales phase has ended and the architect’s commission begins (even without written form). Therefore, ask about this during the initial meeting to avoid disputes later on.
Best regards
WD
@ Wanderdüne
You just brought up an interesting point again – contracts and so on.
We have basically already had an initial (acquisition) meeting. However, in that meeting, we only outlined our project and checked the "chemistry." Now it should definitely become more concrete. We thought about commissioning the architect first for preliminary planning. First, we want a reference point to see if our budget planning is even realistic and to create a basis for construction financing. Second, to be honest, I can only say if we work well with the architect once we start working more concretely with him.
In the first meeting, the architect mentioned that he would initially offer billing based on an hourly fee, capped by the HOAI. That means if HOAI would be cheaper for us, it would be billed according to that; if the hourly service is cheaper, then that would be billed instead.
To me, that sounds fair at first. Now, my question is whether there is anything legal we need to consider here?
You just brought up an interesting point again – contracts and so on.
We have basically already had an initial (acquisition) meeting. However, in that meeting, we only outlined our project and checked the "chemistry." Now it should definitely become more concrete. We thought about commissioning the architect first for preliminary planning. First, we want a reference point to see if our budget planning is even realistic and to create a basis for construction financing. Second, to be honest, I can only say if we work well with the architect once we start working more concretely with him.
In the first meeting, the architect mentioned that he would initially offer billing based on an hourly fee, capped by the HOAI. That means if HOAI would be cheaper for us, it would be billed according to that; if the hourly service is cheaper, then that would be billed instead.
To me, that sounds fair at first. Now, my question is whether there is anything legal we need to consider here?
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