Hello everyone,
As we are currently looking into buying a kitchen, we are interested in the fairness of the asking prices. Our experience so far has been that price reductions of 25-50% off the initial prices have sometimes been offered.
To get a better idea of what constitutes a reasonable price for a kitchen, rather than focusing on "how much of a discount can I negotiate," I would like to see a list of your kitchen purchases:
Manufacturer:
Kitchen studio:
Initial price:
Final price:
I hope this discussion will help readers by sharing real experiences, leading to a fair interaction at the kitchen showroom, without either party feeling like they have been taken advantage of.
Best regards,
Sascha aus H
As we are currently looking into buying a kitchen, we are interested in the fairness of the asking prices. Our experience so far has been that price reductions of 25-50% off the initial prices have sometimes been offered.
To get a better idea of what constitutes a reasonable price for a kitchen, rather than focusing on "how much of a discount can I negotiate," I would like to see a list of your kitchen purchases:
Manufacturer:
Kitchen studio:
Initial price:
Final price:
I hope this discussion will help readers by sharing real experiences, leading to a fair interaction at the kitchen showroom, without either party feeling like they have been taken advantage of.
Best regards,
Sascha aus H
That would be way too high-maintenance for me, very sterile, and there’s not enough counter space next to the cooktop. Honestly, the room in general feels too cramped – the walkway is narrow and zigzagged. But everyone has their own taste. The cabinet carcass looks nice, though. We’ve also had handleless cabinets before, and I wouldn’t want them again; they’re simply not functional enough. When you’re actually working, they just get annoying.
As a contrast to glossy fronts, we decided on a solid wood countertop. The price was comparable to that of a granite countertop. Maintenance is fairly low: in the evening, I wipe everything down with a damp cloth. Otherwise, it only needs to be oiled every few months. The only downside was that, due to the wood grain, a flush installation of an induction cooktop, for example, wasn’t possible. You can’t have it all!
ypg schrieb:
I think that’s good! At least it’s honest! People like to take the online price but still want to use the convenient service in person.
But you won’t get that value back – not even from the appraiser.
Regarding the kitchen again:
I also wouldn’t agree to pay a certain price x for a value y.
However, I don’t have that bargaining experience. Maybe we could have negotiated back then, maybe a discount of – say – 2000€ (about $2,200) would have been possible. Maybe.
Here’s how it went for us: I personally designed the layout of our house, including the kitchen. So, I knew exactly how I wanted to arrange each wall, where the wall cabinets should go, if at all, etc.
We planned using an online kitchen planner as well. I also considered getting an Ikea kitchen because I like the DIY aspect. I enjoy planning and had a clear idea of how I wanted it to look. Plus, I like saving money!
I checked Ikea’s price including installation...
But I know from experience with our old kitchen which Ikea cabinets would sag right away (not very attractive) and Ikea also has limitations with built-in appliances. Since we have an open-plan kitchen, a poorly executed improvisation wasn’t an option.
That’s how we ended up at the kitchen studio I mentioned, with a price expectation above Ikea’s, because I was willing to pay more for AI quality – a complete solution for a fair price! *after visiting several furniture stores and smaller kitchen studios. Something was always off: sky-high prices on showroom items, no available salespeople, no appealing design on display...
Our preferred cabinet front was available there – so we went to the salesperson, who asked about our budget. Now I have to admit: he said with this front, the offer was roughly 50% appliances and 50% furniture. The front was Nolte.
I showed him my plan, and he designed matching cabinets with nice pull-outs. Regarding the pull-out pantry cabinet, he said right away, "That’s not possible within budget." He had similar concerns about another item.
They asked about appliances. Naturally, we wanted stainless steel finishes, attractive looking, some features like a steam oven, quiet operation, and AAA or at least A+ energy ratings, etc. He recommended Neff instead of Miele, and AEG for fully built-in appliances. They showed us a catalog with original prices. I almost panicked looking at those numbers. The salesperson kept saying the prices shouldn’t concern us, as during planning there would be about 30% off or similar discounts. Okay, so we picked... Then my husband added an extra-thin countertop, which was, of course, more expensive... and after finalizing the plan, the computer calculation showed a bit over our target budget: 10,400€ (about $11,400)! That was quite a statement, so since you hear a lot about kitchen purchases, we visited the next town in the following days.
There, a typical kitchen specialty store (at the entrance of Lüneburg) immediately offered us an affordable brand after I showed my drawing and mentioned the price. Unfortunately, their door heights had little flexibility, so my request to avoid horizontal offsets in the doors was completely ignored. "That doesn’t exist in this price range," they said... The salesperson entered everything into the computer without involving us (she had my plan) and the price came out to over 13,000€ (about $14,300) WITHOUT appliances, which were supposed to be added later (it was nearly closing time). If they had used the high-quality Nolte, probably around 17,000€ (about $18,700) without appliances – I could have thrown up!
We never went back there!
Without hesitation, we accepted our 10,400€ price and even negotiated a pot set for induction cooking (which retails for several hundred euros). Four months later (when we had a better overview of other construction costs) I modified the kitchen slightly, adding another 1,500€ (about $1,650). The refrigerator was a separate purchase, a floor model we picked up ourselves five months before moving in.
If the same kitchen had been cheaper somewhere else or if anyone told me we could have negotiated more here, it wouldn’t have mattered, because I got my dream kitchen at the price we wanted. Hi @ypg,
We are currently working on the kitchen too and wanted to ask where you got the offer for 10,400€.
Thanks and best regards
We purchased our kitchen from hummelküchen (a bit north of Hamburg) and managed to save 3% cash discount between the offered price and the final sale price. The prices had already been negotiated by the construction company we built with. The electrical appliances were priced roughly at online market rates. The difference was easily justified by installation, delivery, warranty through a single company, and so on.
The electrical appliances make up the largest cost component within the affordable/standard kitchen price range. The cabinets are basically made of particleboard, and the fronts add another portion to the price. Finally, the countertop either comes almost for free (particleboard) or massively exceeds any kitchen budget (complex single-piece granite designs and similar).
In the end, we were satisfied that our construction company “specified” the kitchen supplier. It would have been possible to deduct that cost item (remove the trade), but according to neighbors, it usually wasn’t worth it. We visited the showroom three times before signing off on everything including extras. After that, the kitchen studio coordinated everything with our site manager, including delivery and installation. Everything went smoothly and exactly on the construction company’s schedule. The on-site measurements before installation were carried out in our presence.
Overall, I found the process very good. However, the installation crew was not that great, but that’s another story.
The electrical appliances make up the largest cost component within the affordable/standard kitchen price range. The cabinets are basically made of particleboard, and the fronts add another portion to the price. Finally, the countertop either comes almost for free (particleboard) or massively exceeds any kitchen budget (complex single-piece granite designs and similar).
In the end, we were satisfied that our construction company “specified” the kitchen supplier. It would have been possible to deduct that cost item (remove the trade), but according to neighbors, it usually wasn’t worth it. We visited the showroom three times before signing off on everything including extras. After that, the kitchen studio coordinated everything with our site manager, including delivery and installation. Everything went smoothly and exactly on the construction company’s schedule. The on-site measurements before installation were carried out in our presence.
Overall, I found the process very good. However, the installation crew was not that great, but that’s another story.
Hello, I prefer to buy the electrical appliances separately to have a much wider range of options. However, I must say that I also know a professional expert for kitchen installations personally, so retrofitting is not a problem for me.
Accordingly, I paid 10,000 euros for my current kitchen, excluding electrical appliances.
Accordingly, I paid 10,000 euros for my current kitchen, excluding electrical appliances.
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