Hello everyone,
As we are currently looking into buying a kitchen, we are interested in the fairness of the asking prices. Our experience so far has been that price reductions of 25-50% off the initial prices have sometimes been offered.
To get a better idea of what constitutes a reasonable price for a kitchen, rather than focusing on "how much of a discount can I negotiate," I would like to see a list of your kitchen purchases:
Manufacturer:
Kitchen studio:
Initial price:
Final price:
I hope this discussion will help readers by sharing real experiences, leading to a fair interaction at the kitchen showroom, without either party feeling like they have been taken advantage of.
Best regards,
Sascha aus H
As we are currently looking into buying a kitchen, we are interested in the fairness of the asking prices. Our experience so far has been that price reductions of 25-50% off the initial prices have sometimes been offered.
To get a better idea of what constitutes a reasonable price for a kitchen, rather than focusing on "how much of a discount can I negotiate," I would like to see a list of your kitchen purchases:
Manufacturer:
Kitchen studio:
Initial price:
Final price:
I hope this discussion will help readers by sharing real experiences, leading to a fair interaction at the kitchen showroom, without either party feeling like they have been taken advantage of.
Best regards,
Sascha aus H
I haven't read the entire post, so this might have been mentioned already. One place you can really save on kitchens is if you're willing to take an older display kitchen that needs to be cleared out. The new models require space. Sometimes, there are even some dismantled units sitting in storage collecting dust. This is where you can actually get discounts that are more than just advertising. I would always ask specifically about this.
hammer12 schrieb:
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Accordingly, I paid 10,000 euros for my current kitchen, without appliances.We paid 10,000 for a good Nolte kitchen with various drawers including Neff and AEG appliances.
There are currently negative experiences shared here in the forum about buying appliances online by @Steffi33.
Best regards in brief
We have found that there is not much to expect from the very large furniture stores.
Since I had already read a lot about the exaggerated kitchen prices in advance, I decided to plan the kitchen myself as much as possible. After countless planning sessions with my wife and using the Alno planner, we finally came up with a layout that we liked and that would be practical and ergonomic:
- 2.15m x 1.20m (7ft 1in x 3ft 11in) sink island with double sink and large work surface, equipped with drawers on both sides.
- Cabinet wall with 4 units (1.80m (5ft 11in) refrigerator, oven, steam oven, 1.80m (5ft 11in) freezer), drawers below the ovens, above them swinging doors with shelves.
- 3.60m (11ft 10in) long run with 3 x 80cm (2ft 7in) drawers, 60cm (2ft) half-height cabinet with dishwasher (drawer below, swinging door above for microwave), 60cm (2ft) half-height pantry cabinet with internal drawers.
In total, we have:
- 6.7 linear meters (22ft) of base cabinets in laminate
- 2.4 linear meters (7ft 10in) of appliance cabinet wall in oak veneer
- 1.2 linear meters (3ft 11in) of half-height cabinets in laminate
- Upper-middle-range appliances from Siemens: dishwasher, 80cm (2ft 7in) induction cooktop, steam oven, oven, 1.80m (5ft 11in) refrigerator, 1.80m (5ft 11in) freezer
- Berbel recirculating range hood, Formline model
- Stone countertop
- Blanco double sink
- 2.4m (7ft 10in) satin glass backsplash as splash protection
Thanks to the quite detailed planning, we were able to compare the offers well.
The first step was one of the largest kitchen studios in our region (Grade 2):
With really great advice, we initially looked at Nolte (5-module system), but I already warned that I also wanted an alternative offer from Schüller (6-module system).
Although we were quite well prepared, the appointment lasted almost 5 hours.
Nolte would have been cheaper in the end, but after storage planning, we decided on Schüller.
The final offer there was 22,300€ (around $24,000), still somewhat above our pain threshold of 20,000€ (around $21,500).
The second option was the big red chair store (Grade 5):
The initial price was 27,181€ (about $29,000) with the ridiculous statement that the kitchen would normally cost 35,000€ (about $37,000). When we pointed out that this was a huge difference compared to other offers, the manager came over.
At first polite, then increasingly rude, I was indirectly accused of coming in just to use up the time of his staff to get a comparative offer. (Seriously?!)
I found this very impudent and unfriendly.
I explained to him that I found kitchen buying very non-transparent, so I had decided to do the planning myself as much as possible. This way, we could have the same plan made everywhere and compare better. He did not like that and then came back with an offer of 22,000€ (around $23,500) – but only valid for that day.
We made it clear that we would definitely not sign on that day.
There wasn’t even a building permit yet. ^^
After endless discussions about my approach, the final offer was 21,500€ (around $23,000) until the end of the week.
The third studio (small family business) was exactly the opposite (Grade 1):
- Transparent planning
- Official written offer with itemized details (apparently a rarity when buying a kitchen)
- Separate offer from the stonemason
- Even a planning discount because they didn’t have to do consulting work with us
In the end, the offer was 20,300€ (around $21,500). There was still a discount possible, but that was it.
This was communicated transparently from the beginning by the kitchen retailer, promising a realistic offer that would earn them something but would not start with astronomical prices and huge discounts.
If I do the math, that comes to about 1,000€/linear meter (around $1,060/linear foot) for the furniture including installation.
In summary, I can only say that without this very thorough planning, we would probably never have achieved such a price. Now we feel that we are really getting good value for our money.
Since I had already read a lot about the exaggerated kitchen prices in advance, I decided to plan the kitchen myself as much as possible. After countless planning sessions with my wife and using the Alno planner, we finally came up with a layout that we liked and that would be practical and ergonomic:
- 2.15m x 1.20m (7ft 1in x 3ft 11in) sink island with double sink and large work surface, equipped with drawers on both sides.
- Cabinet wall with 4 units (1.80m (5ft 11in) refrigerator, oven, steam oven, 1.80m (5ft 11in) freezer), drawers below the ovens, above them swinging doors with shelves.
- 3.60m (11ft 10in) long run with 3 x 80cm (2ft 7in) drawers, 60cm (2ft) half-height cabinet with dishwasher (drawer below, swinging door above for microwave), 60cm (2ft) half-height pantry cabinet with internal drawers.
In total, we have:
- 6.7 linear meters (22ft) of base cabinets in laminate
- 2.4 linear meters (7ft 10in) of appliance cabinet wall in oak veneer
- 1.2 linear meters (3ft 11in) of half-height cabinets in laminate
- Upper-middle-range appliances from Siemens: dishwasher, 80cm (2ft 7in) induction cooktop, steam oven, oven, 1.80m (5ft 11in) refrigerator, 1.80m (5ft 11in) freezer
- Berbel recirculating range hood, Formline model
- Stone countertop
- Blanco double sink
- 2.4m (7ft 10in) satin glass backsplash as splash protection
Thanks to the quite detailed planning, we were able to compare the offers well.
The first step was one of the largest kitchen studios in our region (Grade 2):
With really great advice, we initially looked at Nolte (5-module system), but I already warned that I also wanted an alternative offer from Schüller (6-module system).
Although we were quite well prepared, the appointment lasted almost 5 hours.
Nolte would have been cheaper in the end, but after storage planning, we decided on Schüller.
The final offer there was 22,300€ (around $24,000), still somewhat above our pain threshold of 20,000€ (around $21,500).
The second option was the big red chair store (Grade 5):
The initial price was 27,181€ (about $29,000) with the ridiculous statement that the kitchen would normally cost 35,000€ (about $37,000). When we pointed out that this was a huge difference compared to other offers, the manager came over.
At first polite, then increasingly rude, I was indirectly accused of coming in just to use up the time of his staff to get a comparative offer. (Seriously?!)
I found this very impudent and unfriendly.
I explained to him that I found kitchen buying very non-transparent, so I had decided to do the planning myself as much as possible. This way, we could have the same plan made everywhere and compare better. He did not like that and then came back with an offer of 22,000€ (around $23,500) – but only valid for that day.
We made it clear that we would definitely not sign on that day.
There wasn’t even a building permit yet. ^^
After endless discussions about my approach, the final offer was 21,500€ (around $23,000) until the end of the week.
The third studio (small family business) was exactly the opposite (Grade 1):
- Transparent planning
- Official written offer with itemized details (apparently a rarity when buying a kitchen)
- Separate offer from the stonemason
- Even a planning discount because they didn’t have to do consulting work with us
In the end, the offer was 20,300€ (around $21,500). There was still a discount possible, but that was it.
This was communicated transparently from the beginning by the kitchen retailer, promising a realistic offer that would earn them something but would not start with astronomical prices and huge discounts.
If I do the math, that comes to about 1,000€/linear meter (around $1,060/linear foot) for the furniture including installation.
In summary, I can only say that without this very thorough planning, we would probably never have achieved such a price. Now we feel that we are really getting good value for our money.
Nordlys schrieb:
Ikea. 3910,- plus 850,- assembly.With or without appliances?With an oven, induction cooktop, microwave, and extractor hood, dishwasher, LED lighting, wall panels, faucet, composite sink—only the refrigerator is not included, it stands separately. Fronts are matte white lacquered, countertop is light walnut imitation, handles are silver aluminum. The appliances are from IKEA’s mid-range. Dishwasher 449, oven 300, cooktop 300, hood 140, microwave 120. Karsten
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