ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
I have drawn a stair width of 1.1m (3 ft 7 in) everywhere (0.18m (7 in) rise + 26cm (10 in) tread depth). You always have to consider what kind of staircase you have. A straight staircase can quickly feel like a narrow corridor. The narrower it gets, the more it resembles a ladder. Then you still have railings and stringers taking up space, leaving about 0.90m (3 ft) of walking width. We don’t have a very long staircase and also a 1.10m (3 ft 7 in) opening width. In my opinion, that is just the minimum.
The entire design depends on the staircase. If the architect has flexibility there, they can probably gain some additional space in the living room as well.
The entire design depends on the staircase. If the architect has flexibility there, they can probably gain some additional space in the living room as well.
R
R.Hotzenplotz23 Jul 2017 14:45kaho674, I have now reviewed your designs. I think the latest version is the best. However, we need to consider whether it is actually feasible in terms of floor area.
I was able to derive the dimensions of the currently planned building from the second-to-last upper floor design (I hope correctly). That would be 13.45m (44 feet) in width and 9.75m (32 feet) in depth. Your design would be 13.80m (45 feet) wide and 11.45m (38 feet) deep (158m² (1,702 sq ft) floor area). If you scale that down to the correct size, I believe the positive aspects of this design will no longer hold.
In any case, I will keep it. It also gave me the idea to do without the pantry in its current form. Access from the garage to the house—yes, as you planned—but the kitchen on the other side, where I have always wanted it…. we’ll see!
While still meeting the area requirements we defined for each room?
If that’s possible, it would only work with a completely new design. Just having the staircase positioned crosswise already makes it impossible. I find that assessment quite extreme. I honestly don’t see how that could work. Just the upper floor alone? Two kids’ rooms with 16-17m² (172-183 sq ft) each, a bedroom of 15m² (161 sq ft), a walk-in wardrobe of 9m² (97 sq ft), a bathroom that I’m okay with reducing to 12m² (129 sq ft), a utility room of 6m² (65 sq ft), and a kids’ bathroom down to 7m² (75 sq ft)… what else would you reduce to save a full 2 meters (about 6.5 feet) in width? That’s easily 20m² (215 sq ft) less per floor.
I was able to derive the dimensions of the currently planned building from the second-to-last upper floor design (I hope correctly). That would be 13.45m (44 feet) in width and 9.75m (32 feet) in depth. Your design would be 13.80m (45 feet) wide and 11.45m (38 feet) deep (158m² (1,702 sq ft) floor area). If you scale that down to the correct size, I believe the positive aspects of this design will no longer hold.
In any case, I will keep it. It also gave me the idea to do without the pantry in its current form. Access from the garage to the house—yes, as you planned—but the kitchen on the other side, where I have always wanted it…. we’ll see!
ypg schrieb:
Without having read the last two pages or looked back at the floor plans, I just want to mention that yesterday I thought you could easily reduce one meter (about 3 feet) on each side of the house without any loss.
While still meeting the area requirements we defined for each room?
If that’s possible, it would only work with a completely new design. Just having the staircase positioned crosswise already makes it impossible. I find that assessment quite extreme. I honestly don’t see how that could work. Just the upper floor alone? Two kids’ rooms with 16-17m² (172-183 sq ft) each, a bedroom of 15m² (161 sq ft), a walk-in wardrobe of 9m² (97 sq ft), a bathroom that I’m okay with reducing to 12m² (129 sq ft), a utility room of 6m² (65 sq ft), and a kids’ bathroom down to 7m² (75 sq ft)… what else would you reduce to save a full 2 meters (about 6.5 feet) in width? That’s easily 20m² (215 sq ft) less per floor.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Meeting the space requirements we defined for each room?I have now saved and reviewed your PDF: yes, definitely.
I’m not familiar with your room plan, but if your program requires over 10 meters (33 feet) of cabinet space or more than 10 base cabinets, or if most of the kitchen is dedicated to walkways, then something isn’t right. It will likely be similar with the other rooms.
Child 1 can give up 3 square meters (32 square feet), Child 2 can spare 2 (a niche for the bed), the children’s bathroom can be smaller, and that already compresses the front area on the upper floor.
In the north, the utility room can take 2 square meters (21 square feet) from the master area… alternatively, there’s the option toward the north to eliminate the balcony.
On the ground floor, without a fixed room program, I don’t see any major restrictions if I were to adjust things more freely on both sides.
R
R.Hotzenplotz23 Jul 2017 15:34ypg schrieb:
I don’t know your room requirements, but if your program calls for more than 10 meters (33 feet) of cabinet space or more than 10 base cabinets, or if the kitchen mainly consists of walkways, then something isn’t right. The same probably applies to the other rooms.
The kitchen is indeed larger than necessary. With 15-16m² (160-170 sq ft), it’s a very comfortable size. Apart from the hallway, it’s the only room like that.
The room program included:
Kitchen 15-16m² (160-170 sq ft)
Guest bathroom 4m² (43 sq ft)
Office 16-17m² (170-183 sq ft)
Dining area: no specific size; however, it must accommodate a table for six people and have walls free for furniture placement
Living area: 6.20m (20 feet 4 inches) from wall to wall
Bedroom 15m² (160 sq ft); it must fit our large sofa plus an armchair with footstool
Two children’s rooms, each 17m² (183 sq ft) (our kids will want to play on the floor and build things; we don’t want to restrict them, so 17m² feels right)
Walk-in closet approx. 10m² (108 sq ft)
Bathroom approx. 13m² (140 sq ft)
Children’s bathroom approx. 7m² (75 sq ft)
Utility room approx. 6m² (65 sq ft)
What I don’t understand is how you can simply reduce one meter (3 feet) and otherwise keep the design as is, especially with the staircase in its current form, and still proceed with the planning.
It’s an addiction.
Here’s the stair landing again. There might be even more savings possible on the right side of the plan if the exterior wall is shifted.
However, the window situation is somewhat tricky – someone will need to think carefully about it to create an attractive appearance.
Here’s the stair landing again. There might be even more savings possible on the right side of the plan if the exterior wall is shifted.
However, the window situation is somewhat tricky – someone will need to think carefully about it to create an attractive appearance.
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