Development Plan / Restrictions none, neighboring buildings
Plot size 882m² (9489 ft²)
Slope slight south-facing slope, about 1.5m (5 feet) drop over 34m (112 feet) length towards the south
Floor area ratio none
Plot ratio none
Building lines and boundaries none
Edge development yes, garage
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2 full stories, ground floor clear height 2.70m (8.9 feet), upper floor clear height 2.50m (8.2 feet)
Roof type gable roof 28°
Style
Orientation east / west
Maximum heights / limits
Additional requirements
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type gable roof, modern interpretation of a Jura-style house
Basement, stories slab on grade, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages 4 people: M 42, F 35, F 4, F 3
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor ground floor 100m² (1076 ft²), upper floor 100m² (1076 ft²)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest bedrooms per year 1-2
Open or closed architecture open
Traditional or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, cooking island open kitchen with half island
Number of dining seats 8
Fireplace no
Music / stereo wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport large garage 7m x 8m (23 ft x 26 ft)
Vegetable garden, greenhouse vegetable garden
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are desired or avoided:
Bedroom facing north/east as it is the coolest room in the house and we like to wake up with sunrise; children’s rooms preferably separated from the bedroom; flush interior doors with 5mm (0.2 inch) aluminum frames; ground floor parquet flooring, upper floor vinyl/design flooring; bathroom tiles with wood look; the open space in the hallway on the upper floor should be a mix of a small second living room and play area for the children; circulation pump; controlled mechanical ventilation with humidity recovery; wood/aluminum windows
House Design
Planner: my 5 cents
-planner from a construction company
-architect
-do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why? The west side, because we have an unobstructed view to the west over fields and forest
What do you dislike? Why? So far nothing
Cost estimate by architect/planner: around €430,000 excluding ancillary construction costs, including slab on grade
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: €480,000 including ancillary construction costs (excluding kitchen and garden)
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump or geothermal with baskets
If you had to give up something, which details / expansions
-could you do without: external venetian blinds, wood/aluminum windows
-could you not do without: the flush-mounted doors
Why did the design end up this way?
It evolved from many previous drafts and matured over time





Plot size 882m² (9489 ft²)
Slope slight south-facing slope, about 1.5m (5 feet) drop over 34m (112 feet) length towards the south
Floor area ratio none
Plot ratio none
Building lines and boundaries none
Edge development yes, garage
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2 full stories, ground floor clear height 2.70m (8.9 feet), upper floor clear height 2.50m (8.2 feet)
Roof type gable roof 28°
Style
Orientation east / west
Maximum heights / limits
Additional requirements
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type gable roof, modern interpretation of a Jura-style house
Basement, stories slab on grade, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages 4 people: M 42, F 35, F 4, F 3
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor ground floor 100m² (1076 ft²), upper floor 100m² (1076 ft²)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest bedrooms per year 1-2
Open or closed architecture open
Traditional or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, cooking island open kitchen with half island
Number of dining seats 8
Fireplace no
Music / stereo wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport large garage 7m x 8m (23 ft x 26 ft)
Vegetable garden, greenhouse vegetable garden
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are desired or avoided:
Bedroom facing north/east as it is the coolest room in the house and we like to wake up with sunrise; children’s rooms preferably separated from the bedroom; flush interior doors with 5mm (0.2 inch) aluminum frames; ground floor parquet flooring, upper floor vinyl/design flooring; bathroom tiles with wood look; the open space in the hallway on the upper floor should be a mix of a small second living room and play area for the children; circulation pump; controlled mechanical ventilation with humidity recovery; wood/aluminum windows
House Design
Planner: my 5 cents
-planner from a construction company
-architect
-do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why? The west side, because we have an unobstructed view to the west over fields and forest
What do you dislike? Why? So far nothing
Cost estimate by architect/planner: around €430,000 excluding ancillary construction costs, including slab on grade
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: €480,000 including ancillary construction costs (excluding kitchen and garden)
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump or geothermal with baskets
If you had to give up something, which details / expansions
-could you do without: external venetian blinds, wood/aluminum windows
-could you not do without: the flush-mounted doors
Why did the design end up this way?
It evolved from many previous drafts and matured over time
No, @ypg is right about the wardrobe situation and other things. As it is now, I actually quite like it. The bedroom and bathroom will be swapped, and I'm still considering whether to move the kitchen to the northwest corner where the living room is now….. By the way, the open spaces in the upper floor hallway will be filled with bookshelves in case anyone thinks that’s wasted space.
ypg schrieb:
Quick planning usually involves a lot of mistakes because the focus is no longer on creating a good design.Well, it’s not really a quick planning, but a quick revision...
KingSong schrieb:
My plan is just my electronic “paper sketch” so I can better imagine how it should and might eventually look.... that’s also how I understood the drawings.
But as you can see: once specific dimensions are included in a drawing, and details look finalized due to the “professional” drawing style, the sketch is taken as gospel and strongly criticized.
Not everyone is equally good at expressing themselves with rough sketches; some people find digital painting easier. In that case, I would still recommend using a drawing program—the architect doesn’t necessarily need to import those files anyway.
At the current stage of—let’s say—“wandering around” (since you significantly rearranged the massing between the two shown designs), I’m in a similar position as @ypg. I would actually find the (misleading or pseudo-) level of detail more of a hindrance and prefer to experiment in a preliminary design mode without precise scales.
The changes are somewhat hard for me to follow at first because, apart from two full floors, a shallow pitched roof with a defined ridge axis, and large jumps in window sizes, it’s basically a new house rather than an “old” design with repaired details.
Of course, I immediately noticed something else: the first step causes you to stub your toes or ankles quite effectively on the way to and from the cloakroom.
And I have to agree with @Nordlys: an open kitchen also has a significant downside that spoils the cozy atmosphere—namely, the view from the sofa toward the dishes that need washing. On TV cooking shows, assistant directors clear away dirty bowls from the shot from time to time. That luxury is sadly missing at home.
For example, I would proceed as follows: first, draw windows of the same size just to mark their positions. Then I would classify them into B (daylighting windows) and A (view windows). Afterwards, switch to elevation views and adjust the window formats accordingly.
I would take a precise approach with elements that have “disruptive potential” (such as the staircase, where one miscalculation can send everything else to the scrap heap).
The next “fixed points” in the design to size and position would be things like the kitchen line or key views (of the landscape and the bathtub outlook).
All this should be done in a program that allows you to remain in a wireframe model without dimensions for all lower-priority details for a while longer. If necessary, create several separate drawings (for the staircase, kitchen) instead of tackling the entire house at once.
Otherwise, every change triggers an avalanche, and the endless number of revisions never ends.
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I think the phase of uncertainty is behind us now. Of course, this design is a completely different house, but what you don’t know is that this house was already on our radar from the very beginning and only changed over time through countless impressions and experiences... and I’m willing to learn. The "old" design was basically over-optimized by me until I showed it to you for the first time yesterday. So I hope the original plan might actually be the better option... there are many intermediate versions between the first plan, which the current one is based on, and yesterday’s plan.
The staircase should now be as we wanted, the kitchen fits well, and with this plan you don’t have the view from the living room into the kitchen since the living room is located in the northwest corner. Another advantage for us is the possible access to the west terrace between the dining area and living room. From the kitchen, you have a nice view onto the south terrace and the herb garden.
I also like @Nordlys’s suggestion to place the bedroom in the northwest. This way, I can plan for more window area and enjoy an unobstructed view of the forest and meadows.
Let’s see how I can further optimize the corner with the staircase.
The staircase should now be as we wanted, the kitchen fits well, and with this plan you don’t have the view from the living room into the kitchen since the living room is located in the northwest corner. Another advantage for us is the possible access to the west terrace between the dining area and living room. From the kitchen, you have a nice view onto the south terrace and the herb garden.
I also like @Nordlys’s suggestion to place the bedroom in the northwest. This way, I can plan for more window area and enjoy an unobstructed view of the forest and meadows.
Let’s see how I can further optimize the corner with the staircase.
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