ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jul 2017 10:51Maria16 schrieb:
Edit: Since we’re already discussing details: how do you imagine the separation for the shower in the kids’ bathroom? Curtain? A door would probably have to open into the shower due to the ceramic fixtures right next to it?We haven’t focused deeply on the detailed planning of the bathrooms yet. We liked the basic concept as shown in the last draft before the major changes. But it doesn’t make sense to go into too much detail now while everything is still uncertain... First, we need a finalized room program and then—of course—we have to simulate the daily routine.
Maria16 schrieb:
I think you’re just convincing yourselves here. Of course, you can approach the sink in the kids’ bathroom. But with this price range, others might expect something more comfortable or functional.You also have to stay realistic. I can imagine a house for 1.6 million. But we have to balance equipment quality, space, and our many wish list items within the existing budget. A few centimeters to the sink in the kids’ bathroom won’t be the dealbreaker.
ypg schrieb:
We have 3m² (32ft²) upstairs for two people… of course no sink, because you can easily use the water in the adjacent bathroom. That’s six steps through two open doors anyway.3m² (32ft²) for two people? Usually, there is only one person in the laundry room at a time. We currently have a washing machine, dryer, and a Nibe F750 heat pump plus a wall shelf in a 4m² (43ft²) room. It’s not luxurious, and ironing is not possible there. But it works nonetheless.
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jul 2017 11:08Climbee schrieb:
And here with a straight staircase from the living area to the upper floor:
The living room looks a bit compressed. I suspect the vertical distance from wall to wall is well below 6.20 m (20.3 ft).
kaho674 schrieb:
Just throwing out some different ideas.
(My software crashed when trying to add a roof over the extension. Please imagine that part.)
Interesting ideas. Not bad at all. We’re not very keen on having the bedroom facing the street. The utility room should be upstairs, not on the ground floor. That was my wife’s request. Before moving it to the ground floor, the basement would be the preferred alternative. But at the moment, I still think the original draft can be worked out.
Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to print the floor plans or enlarge them enough to see the dimensions. I would have been curious about the distance between the couch and the TV. The speakers also need to be placed behind the couch with proper spacing.
Overall, it’s not a bad design. I’ll take a closer look at it now. However, I prefer the living and dining area on the ground floor in the original layout rather than the “corner solution,” even though you could probably remove a wall there... thinking outside the box is still good.
@ypg:
My wife says she would definitely like to do some ironing there, but she doesn’t want a sink. She prefers to use the sink in the kids’ bathroom.
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jul 2017 11:26Climbee schrieb:
My design was purely a spatial concept and nothing more. How the exact dimensions turn out is another matter. That needs precise drawing. This was only about the distribution of the rooms.Okay. A balcony on the right side is completely out of the question. The A4 highway is located a few hundred meters away in that direction, and with unfavorable wind conditions, noise can easily be heard. For that reason, we also wanted to avoid bedrooms facing that side.
For now, we are trying to finalize the existing design. We might reconsider the beams later.
I would also be among those who would iron in the utility room. Conditional, because currently I’m in the comfortable position that my mother-in-law irons for us.
But I like the idea of being able to watch TV while doing so. So I’m making a note: TV connection for the utility room! You can save space by mounting a flat screen on the wall.
But I like the idea of being able to watch TV while doing so. So I’m making a note: TV connection for the utility room! You can save space by mounting a flat screen on the wall.
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