Development Plan / Restrictions
~1200 m2 (approximately 13000 sq ft)
Sloped site facing north (about 1.5 m (5 feet) on the property and about 1.5 m (5 feet) embankment at the neighboring property) and east
Terrain adjustment to the northern neighbor is generally possible
Access via the dead-end street on the narrow east side
4 m (13 feet) and 10 m (33 feet) setbacks as per attached documents
2 floors
Permitted living area 271 m2 (2917 sq ft)
Homeowner Requirements
Country house style, gable roof
Spacious floor plan
Basement, ground floor, and upper floor
2 adults, 2 toddlers + possibly 1 to 2 children in the future
2 children’s rooms with wet rooms (bathroom facilities)
Separate apartment under 40 m2 (430 sq ft)
Floors separable for maximum flexibility
Installations in shafts and pre-wall constructions
Open kitchen with island
Fireplace
Open garage or carport
Provision for elevator shaft
House Design
Planner:
- Do-it-yourself
Estimated cost: 800,000
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 900,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal energy, trench collector
If you had to give up something, which details / features
- You can give up: balconies, wet rooms in children’s rooms, one or two corners of the house
- You cannot give up: elevator shaft, fireplace
Why is the design as it is now?
The plot is in a good urban location. Therefore, the allowed building density should be used almost to the maximum. Floors should be easily separable. Renting as apartments should be possible without major remodeling in case it becomes necessary.
It would be logical to place the house as far north and east as possible. However, this would completely block the southern exposure of the northern neighbor. This has already been suggested by planners but is out of the question for me. On the other hand, the neighbor is willing to agree to terrain modifications on their property if necessary. Placing the house to the west is difficult due to required setback distances, as the plot narrows. A terrace house placed fully to the west would be possible but is not desired.
I am fully aware that the design is suboptimal in some respects. Therefore, I appreciate any criticism, comments, and suggestions.
~1200 m2 (approximately 13000 sq ft)
Sloped site facing north (about 1.5 m (5 feet) on the property and about 1.5 m (5 feet) embankment at the neighboring property) and east
Terrain adjustment to the northern neighbor is generally possible
Access via the dead-end street on the narrow east side
4 m (13 feet) and 10 m (33 feet) setbacks as per attached documents
2 floors
Permitted living area 271 m2 (2917 sq ft)
Homeowner Requirements
Country house style, gable roof
Spacious floor plan
Basement, ground floor, and upper floor
2 adults, 2 toddlers + possibly 1 to 2 children in the future
2 children’s rooms with wet rooms (bathroom facilities)
Separate apartment under 40 m2 (430 sq ft)
Floors separable for maximum flexibility
Installations in shafts and pre-wall constructions
Open kitchen with island
Fireplace
Open garage or carport
Provision for elevator shaft
House Design
Planner:
- Do-it-yourself
Estimated cost: 800,000
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 900,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal energy, trench collector
If you had to give up something, which details / features
- You can give up: balconies, wet rooms in children’s rooms, one or two corners of the house
- You cannot give up: elevator shaft, fireplace
Why is the design as it is now?
The plot is in a good urban location. Therefore, the allowed building density should be used almost to the maximum. Floors should be easily separable. Renting as apartments should be possible without major remodeling in case it becomes necessary.
It would be logical to place the house as far north and east as possible. However, this would completely block the southern exposure of the northern neighbor. This has already been suggested by planners but is out of the question for me. On the other hand, the neighbor is willing to agree to terrain modifications on their property if necessary. Placing the house to the west is difficult due to required setback distances, as the plot narrows. A terrace house placed fully to the west would be possible but is not desired.
I am fully aware that the design is suboptimal in some respects. Therefore, I appreciate any criticism, comments, and suggestions.
H
hausbau20211 Mar 2020 20:41tumaa schrieb:
That’s something cool… Upper Bavaria? Heading south is correct. Austria.
haydee schrieb:
I find it too dark. If the windows were evenly distributed, it might work. You have an area that always needs light. I can understand that well. But if that remains your only criticism, I can live with it. There are great lighting options available nowadays.
haydee schrieb:
What are you planning to do with the basement? According to the soil survey, it needs to be at least 3.5 m deep (11.5 ft). A basement makes sense then. Planned uses include technical rooms, laundry, storage areas, possibly a hobby or shelter room. So, no basement is really not an option.
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hausbau20211 Mar 2020 21:11haydee schrieb:
Can you add at least one light well to a room? And to the dark apartment? I'm not quite following what you mean right now.
Why would the rooms (on the ground floor?) need a light well? They already have large patio doors. The room (ground floor) in the northeast might be able to use an additional window, OK.
For the "dark apartment," it would certainly be possible to create a light well or sunken light shaft. However, I have serious concerns about potential leaks or water intrusion.
hausbau2021 schrieb:
For those who love sunshine, this is probably not suitable. However, the legal requirements are easily met. I don’t understand. Are you trying to lock someone in there? No one would go in voluntarily.
hausbau2021 schrieb:
The idea would be to place the entrance centrally on the north side on the ground floor. On the north side, the carport. On the ground floor, additionally 2 children's rooms on the east side with a small bathroom. On the west side, a small apartment intended either for older children, an au pair, guests, etc., not for rental purposes.
On the upper floor, living space on the east side with an adjoining terrace, as the view is best there. On the west side, the master bedroom with bathroom. In the middle on the south side, a room (for example, a children's room while the kids are small; a study; a guest room).
The rest goes below ground level.
Light comes through a lift-and-slide door measuring 2.5 m x 2.4 m (8.2 ft x 7.9 ft) and a balcony door. Of course, there could be more. However, the plot is as it is. Building higher is not possible due to lack of permit/planning permission. If you swap the bed and kitchen, it should fit better?
1. First of all, big compliments on your site plans. They are usable, and importantly, you are considering how best to work with the slope. Most people here cannot even draw a rectangle of their site plan and therefore have no sense of their plot’s proportions.
2. When asked about the natural light in the small apartment, you show a completely different apartment. From my perspective, I stop looking at other details at the latest, as nothing about the plan really appears consistent or up to date. I might criticize quite a bit, which overall takes half an hour with the iPad, and then you might reply that some things have already been changed here and there… meaning: I have wasted half an hour. Neither you nor I benefit from that. -> I will focus on the important content instead.
3. Your 3D screenshot: it does not correspond to a possible realistic viewpoint.
-> The viewing height should match that of a person, in this case not a bird’s-eye view.
-> The angle of the screenshot should correspond to the human eye level. In this case, no fisheye effect and no looking around walls.
I say this as a photographer: you significantly distort the space here, in a way that it will never actually be seen.
H
hausbau20211 Mar 2020 22:51kaho674 schrieb:
I don’t understand. Do you want to lock someone in there? Nobody would go in there willingly. Polemics don’t help me, sorry...
ypg schrieb:
When asked about the natural light in the secondary apartment, you show a completely different one. Personally, I stop looking at other details by then, since the plans don’t seem accurate or up to date. I might criticize quite a few things that you could fix with half an hour on an iPad, but then you might say that everything has already been changed here and there... which means I’ve wasted half an hour. Neither of us benefits from that. -> I’m going to stop focusing on important details. Changes are easy to make. I’m happy to receive any constructive feedback. I’m mainly interested to find out if the overall concept could work. In almost every floor plan, you’ll find things you might personally do differently, often it’s just a matter of taste.
So, could you generally imagine living like this? Upstairs?
This also applies to everyone else: Would such a housing situation be basically an option for you?
We actually like the current floor plan quite a bit.
ypg schrieb:
As a photographer, I’m telling you: you are severely misrepresenting the space here, in a way that it will never actually appear. The perspective is obviously distorted, no question. I created it deliberately to show that daylight does in fact reach “the dark hole.” I would also wish it were more. But I can’t raise the house any higher, or there will be issues with the geologist and the building authority / planning permission office.
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