Hello,
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
- currently still renting
- currently a customer of Telekom (internet + phone)
- already owner of an undeveloped plot of land (not yet connected to utilities)
- construction contract signed with general contractor, planned start of construction mid-March, guaranteed construction period ~ 6 months, so move-in expected around September, more likely October
- all electrical work included in the construction contract, no owner-provided work specified
- number of sockets, network outlets, etc., according to the construction contract very few, so we will need to add quite a few
- no basement
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
- Upon inquiry, Deutsche Glasfaser told me that construction work in the community is planned to start in the coming weeks but will last a few months, so our connection will probably only be activated by the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020. If they are not ready by the time our other utilities (gas, water...) are connected to the house, they advise us to pre-install an empty conduit from the property boundary to the utility room as a preparatory measure. What would be the best solution in the meantime? We will move in in September/October. Assuming DG’s construction takes longer than planned, we would be in our nice new house without TV/television/phone.
Should we first continue ordering internet/TV connections from Telekom during our construction? Our contract there is still valid anyway. Although the connection would cost about 800 EUR, I would get the later DG TV connection free of charge.
SenorRaul7 schrieb:
I’m not familiar with Access Points at all. Until now, I only knew that the router itself was the starting point. If my kids' room was too far away back then, I just had bad luck.
So Access Points are basically small mini-routers you put in every room!? I’ll have to read up on that. Access Points are small Wi-Fi transmitters and receivers. They connect to the central router via LAN. I have the Wi-Fi completely turned off on my router and rely only on Access Points. They are available from many manufacturers with different performance levels. Currently, I’m using the Unifi Access Point AC lite—a small, round "disc" mounted on the ceiling in the hallway. It’s less noticeable than a smoke detector.
@Nordlys: Wi-Fi might work for you, but you probably don’t have the demands of a large family. Also, you live in a bungalow, so the signal doesn’t have to pass through a concrete floor.
SenorRaul7 schrieb:
attach something on the outside of the house?You don’t have to mount (temporary) solutions on the roof. You can also hang a satellite dish or a DVB-T antenna on a balcony or place it on the lawn. Satellite dishes are also available in discreet and attractive designs. Search for "flat antenna."
For DVB-T, you should first find out what signals are receivable in your area. Check the coverage map on the website you linked. Even better, ask someone locally.
Whatever you choose, for private HD channels you will have to pay one way or another (in the future).
Nordlys schrieb:
Satellite for TV, not IPTV.
Internet is the best backup solution: GigaCube from Vodafone. It’s really easy to set up.I did exactly the same, it worked great and Vodafone was able to deliver within 4 days. Telekom wrote 4 months after my “application” that it had been lost and that the whole process would have to start all over again. Idiots. The internet with the GigaCube isn’t more expensive either; speed and data volume are completely sufficient for the typical needs of a private user. The trend will probably move towards wireless for all kinds of applications in the medium term anyway. And with your own satellite dish, you also feel somewhat more independent.
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SenorRaul715 Feb 2019 14:06hanse987 schrieb:
Access points are small Wi-Fi transmitters and receivers. These are connected via LAN to the central router. I have completely turned off the Wi-Fi on my router and rely only on access points. They are available from many manufacturers in different performance levels. Currently, I have the Unifi Access Point AC Lite. It’s a small round "saucer" mounted on the ceiling in the hallway. It’s less noticeable than a smoke detector. Sounds good. Having one in every room seems excessive for our needs, but one in the upstairs hallway should cover all rooms. Adding one in the garden shed also seems sensible. Definitely noted.
I still don’t fully understand the difference between SAT and DVB-T, but one of them should make sense. I’ll keep researching...
SenorRaul7 schrieb:
Sounds good. Having one in every room seems excessive for our purposes, but one in the hallway of the upper floor should cover all rooms. Adding one in the garden shed also seems reasonable. Definitely noted.
I still don’t fully understand the difference between SAT and DVB-T, but I guess one of them will make sense. I’ll keep researching...Just prepare a connection for an access point centrally located on each floor. First, install an access point on the upper floor and test the coverage, and if it doesn’t reach the basement, add a second one.
SAT is the well-known “satellite dish” on the roof, which is aimed at “one” satellite (usually Astra). DVB-T (T = terrestrial) is the new digital version of the traditional TV antenna that was common before SAT became popular. I would simply go with a standard SAT system and run just one cable from the utility room to the various TV locations. For a while, TVs had two inputs to watch live TV and record something else simultaneously, but these days, with streaming services, that seems unnecessary.
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SenorRaul715 Feb 2019 16:30hanse987 schrieb:
Simply prepare a connection point for an access point centrally on each floor. First, install an access point on the upper floor and test the coverage, and if it’s not enough for the basement, add a second one.
SAT refers to the well-known "satellite dish" on the roof that is aimed at "a" satellite (usually Astra).
DVB-T (T = Terrestrial) is the new digital version of the traditional TV antenna that was used before satellite TV became common.
I would simply use a standard satellite system and run just one cable from the utility room to the various TV locations. For a while, TVs had two connections to watch TV and record something at the same time, but I think that’s excessive nowadays with streaming libraries available. For the ground floor, I thought the Wi-Fi router alone would be enough. But probably adding an additional access point in the hallway downstairs wouldn’t be much extra effort. I’ll upload our floor plan soon with the devices, outlets, etc., as I imagined it without much expertise...
SAT sounds good, especially because it offers independence from any contracts (excluding private HD channels, but those costs seem reasonable). Also, it provides a backup option in case fiber optic (IPTV) service isn’t reliable.
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