ᐅ Planning kitchen appliances: How to approach it. The market is overwhelming.
Created on: 11 Sep 2017 12:34
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G-Star1988
Hello everyone,
I have an appointment at the kitchen studio next Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m looking for the appliances I want to have later in the kitchen. I’ve been researching a lot from brands like Neff / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m not making much progress.
For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:
Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
or
2 x Cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570
(The cooktop with integrated downdraft is the only fixed requirement, unfortunately I don’t have any influence on that ^^)
I actually value quality, energy efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how can I find out if what you pick is really good? Or if there are possibly cheaper but equally high-quality products from other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele—according to the catalog, it’s cheaper but just as good or even better?
How do you approach this?
I have an appointment at the kitchen studio next Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m looking for the appliances I want to have later in the kitchen. I’ve been researching a lot from brands like Neff / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m not making much progress.
For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:
Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
or
2 x Cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570
(The cooktop with integrated downdraft is the only fixed requirement, unfortunately I don’t have any influence on that ^^)
I actually value quality, energy efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how can I find out if what you pick is really good? Or if there are possibly cheaper but equally high-quality products from other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele—according to the catalog, it’s cheaper but just as good or even better?
How do you approach this?
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Knallkörper13 Sep 2017 12:06Are AEG appliances still that loud? We had one of that brand and then decided to go with a Miele. We were surprised by how quiet, but also how heavy, it is in comparison. At the same time, I’m pretty certain there are hardly any reasons to replace a household appliance as long as it’s not broken. Even for a freezer, it doesn’t always make sense to buy a new one just for better efficiency.
By the way, if you’re planning to get a “standard” cooktop without a built-in extractor, you might want to check out the Neff models with the TwistPad. I was skeptical at first, but it has proven to work really well.
By the way, if you’re planning to get a “standard” cooktop without a built-in extractor, you might want to check out the Neff models with the TwistPad. I was skeptical at first, but it has proven to work really well.
Are AEG appliances still noisy? I don’t know. Mrs. Bosch W4 is whisper quiet, and it’s only in the $499 range.
My comment was mainly about the durability of the components. For example, we have a very old Privileg refrigerator in our garage. It’s indestructible. It’s used to stock drinks for garden parties, and it’s of course unplugged by October. In our old house, we had a Gorenje stove with a convection oven and a ceramic cooktop. Unbreakable. Still working today. My cousin, who bought the house, still uses it. Our Siemens washing machine lasted from 2004 until now, 2017. That was also a $499 model, running and running, never needed a single repair. The old Siemens dishwasher lasted 14 years; it was purchased back when Deutsche Marks were still used. I think it was 1,099 DM (about $560). Maybe more or less by a hundred. What good are the nice features if the shock absorber fails, if the motor burns out, if the drum becomes unbalanced, the pump dies, the compressor seizes, the refrigerant evaporates, and so on?
Technically, it wouldn’t be difficult to design these appliances to last 25 years. Unfortunately, they don’t. But it seems Miele still aims for 15 years, BSH for ten years on their better models. Others just want to survive the warranty period.
If our dishwasher is really a Whirlpool, I’m afraid it will fail immediately after the five-year IKEA warranty expires. Americans have never been able to build something decent. Karsten
My comment was mainly about the durability of the components. For example, we have a very old Privileg refrigerator in our garage. It’s indestructible. It’s used to stock drinks for garden parties, and it’s of course unplugged by October. In our old house, we had a Gorenje stove with a convection oven and a ceramic cooktop. Unbreakable. Still working today. My cousin, who bought the house, still uses it. Our Siemens washing machine lasted from 2004 until now, 2017. That was also a $499 model, running and running, never needed a single repair. The old Siemens dishwasher lasted 14 years; it was purchased back when Deutsche Marks were still used. I think it was 1,099 DM (about $560). Maybe more or less by a hundred. What good are the nice features if the shock absorber fails, if the motor burns out, if the drum becomes unbalanced, the pump dies, the compressor seizes, the refrigerant evaporates, and so on?
Technically, it wouldn’t be difficult to design these appliances to last 25 years. Unfortunately, they don’t. But it seems Miele still aims for 15 years, BSH for ten years on their better models. Others just want to survive the warranty period.
If our dishwasher is really a Whirlpool, I’m afraid it will fail immediately after the five-year IKEA warranty expires. Americans have never been able to build something decent. Karsten
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Caspar202013 Sep 2017 13:44Knallkörper schrieb:
Are AEG machines still that loud? We had one of that brand and then decided on a Miele. We were surprised by how quiet, but also heavy, it was in comparison.In our old basement, a Miele and this machine ran side by side. There wasn’t really much difference. Both operated very quietly (so no shaking or vibrations, etc.).
We have an induction cooktop and oven from Siemens, a range hood from Berbel, a refrigerator from AEG, and a dishwasher from Siemens.
The refrigerator was part of the appliance package (or however that is called), and all the other appliances together cost 50 € more than buying them individually.
The refrigerator was part of the appliance package (or however that is called), and all the other appliances together cost 50 € more than buying them individually.
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G-Star198814 Sep 2017 14:31I took the time to write down my list of appliances along with their prices if I were to pick them up locally. I think this way I’m well prepared for the discussion and can, if necessary, have any overpriced items removed from the offer to see if it makes sense to buy them nearby myself.
It was quite a shock to see how much the list prices and dealer prices differ.
For example, my complete set of Bosch electrical appliances costs a total of 9008€ according to the list price. At the local dealer, it would be 5530€. I could probably negotiate the price even lower if I bought them online, but that wouldn’t be a realistic comparison.
It was quite a shock to see how much the list prices and dealer prices differ.
For example, my complete set of Bosch electrical appliances costs a total of 9008€ according to the list price. At the local dealer, it would be 5530€. I could probably negotiate the price even lower if I bought them online, but that wouldn’t be a realistic comparison.
Hello,
I have the Siemens oven that you listed.
Great appliance, even baking, etc.
The only downside is the fingerprints that show up on the stainless steel surfaces, which is really annoying. I will never understand why they didn’t use a fingerprint-resistant coating.
But in any case, I recommend having all visible appliances from the same brand and product line!
I have the Siemens oven that you listed.
Great appliance, even baking, etc.
The only downside is the fingerprints that show up on the stainless steel surfaces, which is really annoying. I will never understand why they didn’t use a fingerprint-resistant coating.
But in any case, I recommend having all visible appliances from the same brand and product line!
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