ᐅ Planning kitchen appliances: How to approach it. The market is overwhelming.

Created on: 11 Sep 2017 12:34
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G-Star1988
Hello everyone,

I have an appointment at the kitchen studio next Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m looking for the appliances I want to have later in the kitchen. I’ve been researching a lot from brands like Neff / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m not making much progress.

For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:

Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
or
2 x Cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570

(The cooktop with integrated downdraft is the only fixed requirement, unfortunately I don’t have any influence on that ^^)

I actually value quality, energy efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how can I find out if what you pick is really good? Or if there are possibly cheaper but equally high-quality products from other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele—according to the catalog, it’s cheaper but just as good or even better?

How do you approach this?
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daniels87
30 Nov 2017 09:30
Just discovered: my new cooktop can display the energy consumed during the last cooking session. So I tested it right away.

Cheap pan from Lidl after 3 minutes on boost: 0.08 kWh. That corresponds to an average of 1.6 kW.

The good old steel enamel pot from my mother, also after 3 minutes on boost: 0.14 kWh, or 2.8 kW.

The difference was easy to notice, too – the pan simmered quietly, while the pot boiled vigorously.

The induction base of the pan is even slightly larger than the bottom of the pot, but the pot is made entirely of steel, so it can also absorb the magnetic field from the sides.

Red digital kWh display on black glass surface


Red digital kWh display lights up on dark surface.


Two pots standing on an induction cooktop in a kitchen.
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Knallkörper
30 Nov 2017 17:00
Our Neff cooktop has that feature too. Unfortunately, it’s just an estimate and nothing more. It might work for comparing pots, though.

Edit: Did you really leave the two pots on "Boost" for 3 minutes without anything inside?
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Alex85
30 Nov 2017 17:24
I just placed a “cold” cast iron pan on the stove and turned on the boost function. After 14 seconds, I stopped because the seasoning started smoking, and the infrared thermometer showed over 200°C (392°F).

3 minutes of boost? That would call the fire department.
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daniels87
30 Nov 2017 17:24
Knallkörper schrieb:
Our Neff cooktop has that too. Unfortunately, it’s just an estimate and nothing more. It might be useful for comparing pots, though.

Edit: Did you really leave the two pots on "Boost" mode empty for 3 minutes?

Of course not! 1L (34 fl oz) of water.
I don’t find it that inaccurate for comparison since the results are reproducible. The same values come up every time.
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Knallkörper
30 Nov 2017 17:32
Our cooktop displays this after every cooking session. However, the main electricity meter always shows a lower reading, even though other devices are obviously connected as well. I also can’t imagine that current transformers are installed there.
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Saruss
3 Dec 2017 23:02
daniels87 schrieb:
Of course not! 1 liter (1.06 quarts) of water. I don't find it inaccurate for comparison since the values are reproducible. The same results come out again.
Really? For me, even 1 liter (1.06 quarts) of water would be gone long before after 3 minutes of boosting... Definitely in the pot and not the pan...