ᐅ Planning kitchen appliances: How to approach it. The market is overwhelming.

Created on: 11 Sep 2017 12:34
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G-Star1988
Hello everyone,

I have an appointment at the kitchen studio next Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m looking for the appliances I want to have later in the kitchen. I’ve been researching a lot from brands like Neff / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m not making much progress.

For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:

Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
or
2 x Cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570

(The cooktop with integrated downdraft is the only fixed requirement, unfortunately I don’t have any influence on that ^^)

I actually value quality, energy efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how can I find out if what you pick is really good? Or if there are possibly cheaper but equally high-quality products from other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele—according to the catalog, it’s cheaper but just as good or even better?

How do you approach this?
RobsonMKK13 Sep 2017 09:58
Nordlys schrieb:
Whatever Skinande is

It’s probably a hot tub.
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nelly190
13 Sep 2017 10:27
A quick question to the group: Is it worth buying appliances directly from the kitchen showroom, or is an electronics store a better option? Our refrigerator broke down, and since we were already at the furniture store, we checked there. They wanted about 40% more than the same model would have cost at an electronics retailer.

Regarding refrigerators, I can only say that Siemens and Liebherr have significant quality differences. Siemens models were mostly plastic, while Liebherr had a lot of glass components—all within the same price range.
KingSong13 Sep 2017 10:41
Whether it is worthwhile to order appliances directly from the kitchen showroom is not easy to answer; it largely depends on your negotiation skills. In our case, we initially planned to source the appliances ourselves and asked the first kitchen showrooms for quotes without appliances. Later on, we compared the offers from different showrooms against each other and repeatedly pushed for better deals. Although it was a lot of work and took time, we were able to save quite a bit. In the end, we got the complete kitchen with all our desired appliances at a lower price than the kitchen without appliances. The important thing is to always request a 100% identical kitchen to be quoted so you can confidently compare and negotiate effectively!
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Caspar2020
13 Sep 2017 11:01
Nordlys schrieb:
Stoves and condenser dryers, ovens, simple technology— even brands like Amica or Gorenje last for years. Refrigerators, brand is also less important when it comes to durability. Features and A++ plus energy ratings, of course, cost extra.
It’s different, though, with washing machines and dishwashers. The components the manufacturer uses make a big difference—bearings, shock absorbers, pumps, heating elements. He says the best is probably Miele. Bosch Siemens also use quite good components in their higher-priced models, but AEG’s quality has declined significantly since Electrolux took over. That’s his opinion. Karsten


Well, it always depends on what you want. Four fixed heating zones just to warm up, or flexible induction where you can place pots and sizes freely, for example.

In any case, the price range among common manufacturers is very wide, depending on the features you want.

From my experience, the appliances typically found in mainstream consumer electronics stores tend to be in the lower price segments for household use. In other words, the truly top-tier appliances are usually only available in catalogs or specialized stores.
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nelly190
13 Sep 2017 11:24
Ok, I agree with you there.
This brings us back to the point that everyone has to consider what they want and how much they value these extras.
Since I haven’t purchased a complete kitchen before, I can’t really judge. Our house already had a kitchen unit installed that is about 10 years old. It is fully equipped with Miele appliances. They are really great. However, the refrigerator broke down a few months ago.
We will probably buy new appliances and cabinets in about 10 years or so. The countertop, however, is made of 6cm (2.4 inches) granite including a matching backsplash. Everything, including the sockets, is fitted with millimeter precision. That’s really impressive. That’s why the countertop will probably stay in place.
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Caspar2020
13 Sep 2017 11:41
By the way, the features-to-price ratio is what matters most to me. That’s why, for example, we ended up with an AEG washing machine, because it has a weight display for loading and can handle up to 8kg (17.6 lbs).

Machines with similar features from Bosch/Miele were significantly more expensive.

It’s sometimes surprising how heavy or light a pile of laundry can be.