ᐅ New Kitchen – Dishwasher from Ikea or Another Manufacturer?
Created on: 24 Sep 2016 23:14
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lightcord24 Sep 2016 23:14Hello everyone,
My girlfriend and I are currently planning a new kitchen at IKEA.
After reading a lot here, many people have chosen a different dishwasher than the one from IKEA, which makes installation quite difficult.
[List:9yql848c]Can someone tell me why you do this?
What advantages does it have?
What about the current machines that IKEA offers—aren’t they good enough (5-year warranty)?[/List:u:9yql848c]
We would consider the Rengöra, Skinande, or Välgjord models.
I’m curious why you decided against these products—are they not that great?
Thanks in advance.
My girlfriend and I are currently planning a new kitchen at IKEA.
After reading a lot here, many people have chosen a different dishwasher than the one from IKEA, which makes installation quite difficult.
[List:9yql848c]Can someone tell me why you do this?
What advantages does it have?
What about the current machines that IKEA offers—aren’t they good enough (5-year warranty)?[/List:u:9yql848c]
We would consider the Rengöra, Skinande, or Välgjord models.
I’m curious why you decided against these products—are they not that great?
Thanks in advance.
In my opinion, Ikea dishwashers are generally quite decent, except perhaps for the LAGAN model. Considering the 5-year warranty, they are also reasonably priced.
One reason why many Ikea kitchen buyers tend to choose other appliances is partly due to Ikea’s limited selection. They also don’t cater to the upper mid-range market.
For example, among dishwashers, there are no models with zeolite drying or with A .
If you don’t want a cutlery drawer, for instance, you can’t choose the otherwise very efficient Välgjord... and so on.
So, many people simply don’t find what they would ideally like.
The situation is similar with ovens. However, it’s less noticeable in forums because oven installation is usually less problematic.
Manufacturers don’t all offer the same features. When you look closely at individual models, you gradually identify which features you want and what price you’re willing to pay. Having a choice of 30 models is certainly more convenient than being limited to one of only three Ikea models.
Personal preferences for certain brands also play a role. Ikea as an appliance brand hardly exists on its own: the products are always made by Whirlpool or Electrolux. Two brands that don’t have a particularly strong emotional connection in Germany.
One reason why many Ikea kitchen buyers tend to choose other appliances is partly due to Ikea’s limited selection. They also don’t cater to the upper mid-range market.
For example, among dishwashers, there are no models with zeolite drying or with A .
If you don’t want a cutlery drawer, for instance, you can’t choose the otherwise very efficient Välgjord... and so on.
So, many people simply don’t find what they would ideally like.
The situation is similar with ovens. However, it’s less noticeable in forums because oven installation is usually less problematic.
Manufacturers don’t all offer the same features. When you look closely at individual models, you gradually identify which features you want and what price you’re willing to pay. Having a choice of 30 models is certainly more convenient than being limited to one of only three Ikea models.
Personal preferences for certain brands also play a role. Ikea as an appliance brand hardly exists on its own: the products are always made by Whirlpool or Electrolux. Two brands that don’t have a particularly strong emotional connection in Germany.
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IKEA-Profi25 Sep 2016 08:07
Personal preferences for brands also play a role. IKEA as an appliance brand practically doesn’t exist: it’s always Whirlpool or Electrolux behind it. Two brands that don’t have particularly strong emotional attachment in Germany...
German customers feel the need to have Siemens, AEG, Miele, Neff, etc., on "their" appliances. This creates the perception of buying quality. Whether this makes sense or not is another matter.
All IKEA appliances come from AEG/Electrolux or Bauknecht. Whirlpool is essentially the same as Bauknecht; the appliances may differ only slightly in appearance but are much more expensive just because they carry the Bauknecht name...
Whether brand loyalty still makes sense nowadays... I have no idea.
The fact is, many people say they would “never buy brand XXX again,” while many others report “the best experiences with brand YYY.” Statistically, this doesn’t really mean much, but it still significantly influences purchasing decisions.
Electrolux and Whirlpool are huge corporations that own many different brands under one roof. Sometimes, the connections are completely opaque. For example, the Italian brand Indesit now belongs to Whirlpool; a brand that was previously regarded here as a budget option. Privileg, originally the house brand of Quelle, sourced much of its equipment from Electrolux. Today, Privileg belongs to Whirlpool.
Because of this, I wouldn’t confidently claim that Ikea appliances are actually from AEG or Bauknecht, or are identical to them. They could just as well be produced by one of the many other manufacturers under the Electrolux or Whirlpool umbrella... and whether that makes them better or worse is unknown.
By the way, the price differences are no longer what they might have been three or five years ago. Comparing the manufacturers’ suggested retail prices to Ikea’s, it once made more sense. But nobody shops like that anymore. The actual market prices online or in physical stores are often 50% below the suggested retail prices, while discounts at Ikea are rather rare.
In my opinion, Miele holds a special position. Both when it comes to prices—the gap between recommended retail price and actual market price is much smaller—and regarding quality.
The fact is, many people say they would “never buy brand XXX again,” while many others report “the best experiences with brand YYY.” Statistically, this doesn’t really mean much, but it still significantly influences purchasing decisions.
Electrolux and Whirlpool are huge corporations that own many different brands under one roof. Sometimes, the connections are completely opaque. For example, the Italian brand Indesit now belongs to Whirlpool; a brand that was previously regarded here as a budget option. Privileg, originally the house brand of Quelle, sourced much of its equipment from Electrolux. Today, Privileg belongs to Whirlpool.
Because of this, I wouldn’t confidently claim that Ikea appliances are actually from AEG or Bauknecht, or are identical to them. They could just as well be produced by one of the many other manufacturers under the Electrolux or Whirlpool umbrella... and whether that makes them better or worse is unknown.
By the way, the price differences are no longer what they might have been three or five years ago. Comparing the manufacturers’ suggested retail prices to Ikea’s, it once made more sense. But nobody shops like that anymore. The actual market prices online or in physical stores are often 50% below the suggested retail prices, while discounts at Ikea are rather rare.
In my opinion, Miele holds a special position. Both when it comes to prices—the gap between recommended retail price and actual market price is much smaller—and regarding quality.
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IKEA-Experte25 Sep 2016 19:24The dishwasher models from IKEA are all standard capacity, not large-capacity dishwashers. There have been multiple reports of very poor drying performance, and customer service allegedly always stated that this is normal.
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IKEA-Profi25 Sep 2016 21:04The dishwasher models from IKEA are all standard capacity dishwashers, not large capacity ones. There have been multiple reports of very poor drying performance, and customer service is said to have consistently stated that this is normal.I would not agree with that.
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