ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
R
R.Hotzenplotz22 Jul 2017 14:42matte1987 schrieb:
Seriously? Why not just go one size smaller and be much more relaxed financially? I’m not trying to start a debate, but if that’s really the case, I would question the immense size... That would indeed lead to a fundamental discussion. My point was only to show that not everyone with a good budget for a house necessarily needs an ironing station. However, the area is definitely reduced in the basement. Then there’s a small partial basement with a small utility room, guest room, two storage rooms, and that’s it. We’re simply skipping the hobby room.
I would like to bring up the beams in the living room for discussion again. We are considering accepting them to avoid having to change the layout too much... I’d like to hear some opinions.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
It can be so different. We want as little sunlight as possible in the living area because it’s mainly used for watching TV. The aniline leather sofa doesn’t like direct sunlight either. That’s why, in the last design, we initially didn’t want a window to the right of the sofa. However, the architect calculated the sun’s angle and determined that no direct sunlight would reach the sofa there. Otherwise, we would have closed off the entire side. So, to summarize again: You already have a north-facing garden and now want to darken the east side, and no rooms facing south either, in order to keep it as dark as possible. And all that just to watch TV? I would rather set up a home theater in the basement.
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jul 2017 14:51Not everything has to be designed for watching TV. But we don’t care about the southern orientation! We currently live with the living room facing north and are perfectly happy with it. We don’t miss anything. Please don’t focus too much on the orientation. In OUR personal case, it really isn’t an issue. We don’t value it, and what matters much more to us is which direction faces the street and which faces the garden.
And before cutting costs elsewhere, we’d rather save on the expensive full basement with large storage rooms… all just for the hobby room, since the basement otherwise doesn’t make structural sense. It’s either a full basement with too much total area or a partial basement that doesn’t allow for a hobby room. In the end, the hobby room is surely not worth €50,000 (amount just thrown out there)… that money can definitely be invested more wisely.
And before cutting costs elsewhere, we’d rather save on the expensive full basement with large storage rooms… all just for the hobby room, since the basement otherwise doesn’t make structural sense. It’s either a full basement with too much total area or a partial basement that doesn’t allow for a hobby room. In the end, the hobby room is surely not worth €50,000 (amount just thrown out there)… that money can definitely be invested more wisely.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Of course, discussions in a forum can never replace the hours-long conversations with an architect. In most cases, with a reasonable and attentive architect, it would be the other way around.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
However, the floor area is definitely reduced in the basement as well. Then there will be a small partial basement with a small utility room, guest room, two storage rooms, and that's it. Beware of false hopes – a half basement costs three quarters, a three-quarter basement costs ninety percent. Roughly speaking, any reduction in floor space that does not significantly affect the exterior wall length saves practically nothing. For example, under a rectangular ground floor plan, making an L-shaped basement by reducing the basement area would be a gamble on the edge between throwing money away and getting no real benefit. Space "saved," costs remain.
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R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
We haven’t yet gone into detailed planning for the bathrooms. The layout in the last draft before the major changes was basically fine with us in principle. But it doesn’t make sense to dive too deep into that now, since everything is still up in the air… We first need a finalized room program.What I wanted to share with you is this: some details and furniture layouts can turn a design into a weak compromise if the furniture simply doesn’t fit. Or it can mean you have to make bigger changes to the floor plan than you initially expected.
By the way, I find it surprising that you say you first need a room program. From what I understood when reading, you don’t want to change the basic orientation anymore. Also, individual rooms don’t seem to be up for discussion (at least on the upper floor, and probably the ground floor too). In my opinion, you can’t expect the current room program to change anymore. And the same goes for the floor plan, since you basically don’t want to alter anything there either.
That also relates to the question about beams… Personally, I think you could make it look quite nice with appropriately high ceilings and symmetrical or well-distributed beams with integrated lighting. I might even consider adding “false beams” where no structural beams are needed, simply because it looks better design-wise. But that, of course, depends especially on how high the ceilings will be, how low the beams end up, and whether the space beneath them can still be furnished usefully (for example, if you want a pendant light above the table but its position doesn’t match the beams — another one of those tricky details).
Speaking of the table: won’t the passage by the fireplace feel a bit tight?
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