ᐅ Single-family house with a pitched roof, without a basement – feedback welcome

Created on: 1 Nov 2018 16:05
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Milmay
Hello everyone,
We are planning to start building our single-family home next year. Currently, we are working on the floor plan, have tried several versions, and are quite satisfied with what we have so far.
I would appreciate it if you could share your opinions and feedback on the floor plan.

Development plan / restrictions:

Plot size: 445 sqm (4789 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.7
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories plus attic conversion later
Roof style: gable roof
Maximum height: eaves height 6.5 m (21 ft 4 in) on the street side
Heating: geothermal
Personal budget limit: 400,000

Client requirements:

No basement
Number of occupants: 2 adults and 3 children
Open kitchen with sliding door
Double garage

The attic will initially be used instead of a basement.
It will also house the heating system and utility room with washing machine and dryer.
Since our family plan is not yet final, an additional children's room could be added in the attic in the future.

Grundriss eines Hauses mit Zimmern (Kinderzimmer, Bad, Flur, Schlafzimmer), Treppe und Garten.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Garage, Küche, Wohn-Ess-Bereich, Flur, Hauswirtschaftsraum und Garten.


Lageplan: Parzelle 770 mit schwarzem Rand an einer kurvigen Straße; umliegende Parzellen nummeriert.


Modernes weißes zweistöckiges Haus mit rotem Ziegeldach, Doppelgarage und Eingang.
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derpikniker
5 Nov 2018 09:10
11ant schrieb:
The kitchen is awful,

Make a counterproposal. You have the room in front of you.
ypg schrieb:
Because it’s harder to use? Because it causes long walking distances?! No counter space where you load or unload? Where you need to get rid of hot items, etc.? And the fridge right behind the door... have you ever heard of an ergonomic kitchen workstation?

Make a counterproposal. You have the room in front of you.
11ant schrieb:
one to separate house / garage

A careful observer will notice that the current plan (from last night) shows no connection between the garage and the house.
11ant schrieb:
to the south

So exactly in front of the only realistically usable windows of the living room?
11ant schrieb:
brilliantly simple

Yep.
Climbee5 Nov 2018 10:06
The current plan has removed access from the garage, but when I look at how groceries will be carried into the kitchen, it really worries me.

The entire floor plan suffers from the placement of the entrance area, staircase, and utility room. As a result, the room on the west side (where the kitchen is currently planned) is too narrow to be used effectively. This neither allows for an ergonomically practical kitchen layout nor a cozy living room if, as my first thought, the kitchen and living room were swapped.

Since access to the garage is gone (thankfully!) and there will be a windowless wall facing the garage, I would approach the entrance area with staircase and utility room completely differently and locate these spaces along that windowless rear wall instead. Then I would move the kitchen further south and make it a bit wider (because the entrance area is no longer there) or swap it with the living room. A shared entrance for the living, dining, and kitchen area should be centrally located, preferably closer to the kitchen since that’s where groceries need to be brought in—not the living room.

I can't sketch right now, otherwise I would add one of my dreaded pencil scribbles to illustrate what I have in mind.

Of course, it’s clear that the upper floor would also need to be adjusted if the staircase position changes.
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ypg
5 Nov 2018 10:56
derpikniker schrieb:
Make a counterproposal. You have the room in front of you.

My counterproposal would be a different design—fundamentally a different room layout. I have already mentioned this several times.
I started working on it yesterday, but in the end, I concluded that nothing will come of it on your part except a different sofa arrangement... Therefore, I have pointed out enough flaws to you (yesterday and the day before) that should basically be addressed differently.
I’d rather spend the time that a well-thought-out initial design requires on others who are open and don’t tell me upfront that they won’t accept any proposals from me.
If you don’t recognize your problem, it remains your problem.
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ypg
5 Nov 2018 10:58
@Climbee I approached it in a similar way.
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derpikniker
5 Nov 2018 12:06
Climbee schrieb:
if you were to swap the kitchen and living room (my first thought).

That was also our first thought. Best practice is usually to arrange the kitchen, dining room, and then the living room in a clockwise sequence starting from the entrance door. In our case, however, the living room would be facing a 2m (6.5 ft) high gabion wall right in front. That doesn’t work. I also didn’t want to squeeze the kitchen between the living room and the dining room. So the current room layout, which was also mentioned by Kaho674, remains the best option.
Climbee schrieb:
I can’t sketch right now, otherwise I would add one of my dreaded pencil doodles to show what I have in mind.

I have time and a very good spatial imagination.
kaho6745 Nov 2018 12:19
I can’t help myself:
Standard staircase, no landing! (not representable)

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