ᐅ Single-family house for 4 people – Initial Design – Baden-Württemberg
Created on: 14 May 2020 12:37
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Malunga
Hello dear forum members,
we would also like to share our design with you as a reference.
The plot is number 84 according to the plan. (It will still be expanded to 504m² (5415 ft²))
Location is Baden-Württemberg.
But first, the essential key data:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 504m² (5415 ft²) - 17.7m x 28.5m (58 ft x 94 ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development: according to Baden-Württemberg regulations (2m (6.5 ft)?)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: Max. 2
Roof shape: Almost anything possible
Architectural style: Modern / Classic
Orientation: East / West
Maximum heights / Limits: Ridge height: 6.2m (20 ft); Eaves height: 8.6m (28 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic Modern
Basement, floors: Basement not desired; floors 1.5 (knee wall 1.80m (5 ft 11 in))
Number of occupants, age: Currently 2 (36/27), planned 4
Space requirements EG (ground floor), OG (upper floor):
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: Max 1-2
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Welcome
Music / stereo wall
Balcony; roof terrace: Not necessary
Garage, carport: Garage size for 4 motorcycles and workshop
Utility garden, greenhouse: Not necessary
House Design
Planning by:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
Open living and dining area
Bedroom facing south, bathroom facing east
Price estimate from architect/planner: Shell construction so far €330,000 (excluding garage), CLT construction method
Personal price limit for house including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating system: undecided so far
If you have to omit, which details/extras
- can you omit: smart home, 3 bathrooms, basement, sauna, balconies, dormers, etc.
- cannot omit: view to the south / southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
After countless drafts, we have now really fallen in love with this rough concept.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
The plot offers a great view to the south.
So far the unknown factor is the neighbors’ development. We want to plan so that it does not really matter how they build without restricting us much.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Of course, we would like some basic suggestions about the floor plan.
Too small, too large, senselessly planned...
We have tried to create simple structures. We don't need any special frills.
The main living area will be the primary room.
Do you think the children’s room sizes are sufficient? How is the lighting there? The windows were just roughly drawn in. Should / must skylights still be added there?
Before we add all the furniture, we would like to know in advance if the basic planning could work.
We have already placed the little house (still with rotated ridge) on the plot.
We are already looking forward to an engaging discussion and are open to every suggestion.
Best regards,
Matthias
PS: Just noticed I forgot the window in the dressing room; of course, it will be added later.
we would also like to share our design with you as a reference.
The plot is number 84 according to the plan. (It will still be expanded to 504m² (5415 ft²))
Location is Baden-Württemberg.
But first, the essential key data:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 504m² (5415 ft²) - 17.7m x 28.5m (58 ft x 94 ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development: according to Baden-Württemberg regulations (2m (6.5 ft)?)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: Max. 2
Roof shape: Almost anything possible
Architectural style: Modern / Classic
Orientation: East / West
Maximum heights / Limits: Ridge height: 6.2m (20 ft); Eaves height: 8.6m (28 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic Modern
Basement, floors: Basement not desired; floors 1.5 (knee wall 1.80m (5 ft 11 in))
Number of occupants, age: Currently 2 (36/27), planned 4
Space requirements EG (ground floor), OG (upper floor):
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: Max 1-2
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Welcome
Music / stereo wall
Balcony; roof terrace: Not necessary
Garage, carport: Garage size for 4 motorcycles and workshop
Utility garden, greenhouse: Not necessary
House Design
Planning by:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
Open living and dining area
Bedroom facing south, bathroom facing east
Price estimate from architect/planner: Shell construction so far €330,000 (excluding garage), CLT construction method
Personal price limit for house including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating system: undecided so far
If you have to omit, which details/extras
- can you omit: smart home, 3 bathrooms, basement, sauna, balconies, dormers, etc.
- cannot omit: view to the south / southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
After countless drafts, we have now really fallen in love with this rough concept.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
The plot offers a great view to the south.
So far the unknown factor is the neighbors’ development. We want to plan so that it does not really matter how they build without restricting us much.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Of course, we would like some basic suggestions about the floor plan.
Too small, too large, senselessly planned...
We have tried to create simple structures. We don't need any special frills.
The main living area will be the primary room.
Do you think the children’s room sizes are sufficient? How is the lighting there? The windows were just roughly drawn in. Should / must skylights still be added there?
Before we add all the furniture, we would like to know in advance if the basic planning could work.
We have already placed the little house (still with rotated ridge) on the plot.
We are already looking forward to an engaging discussion and are open to every suggestion.
Best regards,
Matthias
PS: Just noticed I forgot the window in the dressing room; of course, it will be added later.
Malunga schrieb:
The drawn-in furniture pieces are to scale. And I assume that what you drew them in is a roughly traced 3D floor plan in 2D, otherwise unchanged, meaning one that was originally created as "ground floor up" instead of "top floor down" (?)
Malunga schrieb:
That tricky straight staircase really takes its toll. Is it even allowed to? – What contribution does the straight staircase make to the household income, for it to have more than just an advisory voice at the table?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
So now I’ve managed to organize it as well.
@kaho674 already mentioned it, but for me the house is also oriented incorrectly.
By the way, in Baden-Württemberg there is a 2.5m (8 feet) setback from the property boundary if nothing else is specified. Assume the neighbor will place their house at the minimum distance. It looks like you are fully using the width available.
That means 5m (16 feet) between your house and the neighbor’s front facade. Even better, imagine your neighbor builds a 3m (10 feet) high garage exactly on their northern property line. That wouldn’t be unusual for their plot. Then good luck enjoying the view from your sitting window or whatever it is.
That’s why I’m skipping a detailed analysis of the floor plan now — I think going back to the drawing board would be better.
As a starting point, I would also consider orienting the house towards the garden. Keep in mind you might want short distances from the kitchen to the terrace. Not everyone thinks that way, but for me it’s essential. Others might prioritize the view from the kitchen window towards the street.
If you want to keep a straight staircase, when starting over it’s worth trying to rotate it 90 degrees. It might fit better.
One more thing I just noticed: 2.9m (9.5 feet) depth for a bedroom is extreme. The bed is 2.2m (7.2 feet) including headboard and frame, and with some clearance at the wall you only have 75cm (30 inches) left to walk through. That’s really tight.
@kaho674 already mentioned it, but for me the house is also oriented incorrectly.
By the way, in Baden-Württemberg there is a 2.5m (8 feet) setback from the property boundary if nothing else is specified. Assume the neighbor will place their house at the minimum distance. It looks like you are fully using the width available.
That means 5m (16 feet) between your house and the neighbor’s front facade. Even better, imagine your neighbor builds a 3m (10 feet) high garage exactly on their northern property line. That wouldn’t be unusual for their plot. Then good luck enjoying the view from your sitting window or whatever it is.
That’s why I’m skipping a detailed analysis of the floor plan now — I think going back to the drawing board would be better.
As a starting point, I would also consider orienting the house towards the garden. Keep in mind you might want short distances from the kitchen to the terrace. Not everyone thinks that way, but for me it’s essential. Others might prioritize the view from the kitchen window towards the street.
If you want to keep a straight staircase, when starting over it’s worth trying to rotate it 90 degrees. It might fit better.
One more thing I just noticed: 2.9m (9.5 feet) depth for a bedroom is extreme. The bed is 2.2m (7.2 feet) including headboard and frame, and with some clearance at the wall you only have 75cm (30 inches) left to walk through. That’s really tight.
Hello Face,
thank you for your interesting tips. The issue with the potential garage of the southern neighbor has also crossed my mind. Unfortunately, I haven’t come up with an adequate solution for this either.
We also once had a floor plan (see below) where the staircase was rotated 90 degrees to the south and, due to the garage topic, we created a kind of open space with a gallery. However, the open space topic is always a heated discussion.
Maybe we should really focus more on the garden.
It might help to remove a child’s bedroom from the current lineup of rooms and instead use the planned additional utility room in the northwest. This would ease things considerably on the ground floor.
In the earlier floor plans (see below), the bathroom was later swapped with the northeast child’s bedroom.
thank you for your interesting tips. The issue with the potential garage of the southern neighbor has also crossed my mind. Unfortunately, I haven’t come up with an adequate solution for this either.
We also once had a floor plan (see below) where the staircase was rotated 90 degrees to the south and, due to the garage topic, we created a kind of open space with a gallery. However, the open space topic is always a heated discussion.
Maybe we should really focus more on the garden.
It might help to remove a child’s bedroom from the current lineup of rooms and instead use the planned additional utility room in the northwest. This would ease things considerably on the ground floor.
In the earlier floor plans (see below), the bathroom was later swapped with the northeast child’s bedroom.
Malunga schrieb:
The main asset of this plot is definitely the nice view to the southeast... ... which I believe is only known in the green forum, so why don’t you bring it over here sometime.
11ant schrieb:
The real die-hards then add an open space above on top. That was not meant as a recommendation *LOL*
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Malunga schrieb:
No kaho, those are three plots stacked along the curve. Why? You mentioned something about enlarging the plot, right?
If so, as I said, that would be completely pointless because you’d be looking at the neighbor’s garage wall from your living room. The design from #81 seems to be more on the right track.
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