ᐅ Single-family house for 4 people – Initial Design – Baden-Württemberg
Created on: 14 May 2020 12:37
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Malunga
Hello dear forum members,
we would also like to share our design with you as a reference.
The plot is number 84 according to the plan. (It will still be expanded to 504m² (5415 ft²))
Location is Baden-Württemberg.
But first, the essential key data:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 504m² (5415 ft²) - 17.7m x 28.5m (58 ft x 94 ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development: according to Baden-Württemberg regulations (2m (6.5 ft)?)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: Max. 2
Roof shape: Almost anything possible
Architectural style: Modern / Classic
Orientation: East / West
Maximum heights / Limits: Ridge height: 6.2m (20 ft); Eaves height: 8.6m (28 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic Modern
Basement, floors: Basement not desired; floors 1.5 (knee wall 1.80m (5 ft 11 in))
Number of occupants, age: Currently 2 (36/27), planned 4
Space requirements EG (ground floor), OG (upper floor):
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: Max 1-2
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Welcome
Music / stereo wall
Balcony; roof terrace: Not necessary
Garage, carport: Garage size for 4 motorcycles and workshop
Utility garden, greenhouse: Not necessary
House Design
Planning by:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
Open living and dining area
Bedroom facing south, bathroom facing east
Price estimate from architect/planner: Shell construction so far €330,000 (excluding garage), CLT construction method
Personal price limit for house including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating system: undecided so far
If you have to omit, which details/extras
- can you omit: smart home, 3 bathrooms, basement, sauna, balconies, dormers, etc.
- cannot omit: view to the south / southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
After countless drafts, we have now really fallen in love with this rough concept.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
The plot offers a great view to the south.
So far the unknown factor is the neighbors’ development. We want to plan so that it does not really matter how they build without restricting us much.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Of course, we would like some basic suggestions about the floor plan.
Too small, too large, senselessly planned...
We have tried to create simple structures. We don't need any special frills.
The main living area will be the primary room.
Do you think the children’s room sizes are sufficient? How is the lighting there? The windows were just roughly drawn in. Should / must skylights still be added there?
Before we add all the furniture, we would like to know in advance if the basic planning could work.
We have already placed the little house (still with rotated ridge) on the plot.
We are already looking forward to an engaging discussion and are open to every suggestion.
Best regards,
Matthias
PS: Just noticed I forgot the window in the dressing room; of course, it will be added later.
we would also like to share our design with you as a reference.
The plot is number 84 according to the plan. (It will still be expanded to 504m² (5415 ft²))
Location is Baden-Württemberg.
But first, the essential key data:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 504m² (5415 ft²) - 17.7m x 28.5m (58 ft x 94 ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development: according to Baden-Württemberg regulations (2m (6.5 ft)?)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: Max. 2
Roof shape: Almost anything possible
Architectural style: Modern / Classic
Orientation: East / West
Maximum heights / Limits: Ridge height: 6.2m (20 ft); Eaves height: 8.6m (28 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic Modern
Basement, floors: Basement not desired; floors 1.5 (knee wall 1.80m (5 ft 11 in))
Number of occupants, age: Currently 2 (36/27), planned 4
Space requirements EG (ground floor), OG (upper floor):
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: Max 1-2
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Welcome
Music / stereo wall
Balcony; roof terrace: Not necessary
Garage, carport: Garage size for 4 motorcycles and workshop
Utility garden, greenhouse: Not necessary
House Design
Planning by:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
Open living and dining area
Bedroom facing south, bathroom facing east
Price estimate from architect/planner: Shell construction so far €330,000 (excluding garage), CLT construction method
Personal price limit for house including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating system: undecided so far
If you have to omit, which details/extras
- can you omit: smart home, 3 bathrooms, basement, sauna, balconies, dormers, etc.
- cannot omit: view to the south / southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
After countless drafts, we have now really fallen in love with this rough concept.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
The plot offers a great view to the south.
So far the unknown factor is the neighbors’ development. We want to plan so that it does not really matter how they build without restricting us much.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Of course, we would like some basic suggestions about the floor plan.
Too small, too large, senselessly planned...
We have tried to create simple structures. We don't need any special frills.
The main living area will be the primary room.
Do you think the children’s room sizes are sufficient? How is the lighting there? The windows were just roughly drawn in. Should / must skylights still be added there?
Before we add all the furniture, we would like to know in advance if the basic planning could work.
We have already placed the little house (still with rotated ridge) on the plot.
We are already looking forward to an engaging discussion and are open to every suggestion.
Best regards,
Matthias
PS: Just noticed I forgot the window in the dressing room; of course, it will be added later.
face26 schrieb:
You hardly get any participation from the “usual suspect users” here (except for @11ant, who just can’t help himself) And whether he can, you can see in this thread: I will limit myself to saying that, in my opinion, those participants are quite right who call for the discussion to be based on a 2D foundation.
Alessandro schrieb:
At some point, I have nicely lit south-facing rooms that serve as storage, while the parents have to put up with the supposedly less desirable rooms for the rest of their lives. On the one hand, this problem ultimately stems from the fact that Germans tend to cling stubbornly to a house once it is built, instead of seeing it as “natural,” like Americans do, to move to a larger one after a promotion.
On the other hand, I thank you for pointing out to me what the question to the answer “42” is: namely, “Why do so many people here plan to move their bedroom into the guest room when they are older, but not into the children’s rooms with their prime top locations after the kids move out?”
Alessandro schrieb:
Basically, I’m a fan of bright rooms, but I think today’s architecture and the desire for huge window surfaces is way over the top. The oversized windows are probably a consequence of small plots of land, aiming to get light into the house despite minimal setback distances being pushed to the limit on as many sides as possible. When there was more space than just a narrow path between the house and the fence, floor-to-ceiling windows were almost exclusively a feature of houses with exceptional views.
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Alessandro15 May 2020 14:37kaho674 schrieb:
I love it.
I don’t. I couldn’t care less about the neighbors. I’m a regular at the nude beach anyway, one of the neighbors is a nurse working with my gynecologist – she’s even seen me from the inside, and the rest can just look away.
You’d be surprised how little other people actually look into your house, even if they had the chance. Sure, there are some peepers out there, but most people prefer to look at some kind of screen. I think you’re an extreme example when it comes to light and windows. I don’t mean that in a bad way, but I believe most Germans tend to value privacy within their own four walls. The Dutch, with their large living room windows often facing the street, are a different breed.
Friends of mine built a mansion with huge window areas. They can’t even keep houseplants because the heat basically burns them. Plus, their air conditioning runs continuously in summer, which is not only annoying due to the noise but also very costly to operate. I won’t even start on the cleaning...
@11ant Of course you can move the bedroom later into the detached children’s room. But usually those aren’t that well equipped with a walk-in closet and en-suite bathroom for the parents.
Alright,
please don’t be too harsh on me for the imprecise measurements. Unfortunately, it wasn’t possible to do better quickly on the tablet.
The drawn furniture pieces are to scale. (And that’s all we have at the moment.)
I hope the site plan clearly shows the ground floor with the attached garage.
PS:
Following some lively discussion, I’ve left out the windows this time....
And for everyone else, north is at the top!
please don’t be too harsh on me for the imprecise measurements. Unfortunately, it wasn’t possible to do better quickly on the tablet.
The drawn furniture pieces are to scale. (And that’s all we have at the moment.)
I hope the site plan clearly shows the ground floor with the attached garage.
PS:
Following some lively discussion, I’ve left out the windows this time....
And for everyone else, north is at the top!
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Drasleona15 May 2020 17:02May I ask on what basis you designed the walls the way you did? Was it just a rough estimate?
Yes Drasleona, I only created detailed measurements using this 3D software.
I have now downloaded an app for my tablet and basically traced the 3D version with my finger. It was really not easy to get precise measurements that way.
So, it’s more of an approximate estimate.
I have now downloaded an app for my tablet and basically traced the 3D version with my finger. It was really not easy to get precise measurements that way.
So, it’s more of an approximate estimate.
D
Drasleona15 May 2020 17:14I was also referring to the drawing in the 3D program.
I don’t understand why certain room sizes are chosen. You’re designing a 220 sqm (2,368 sq ft) house but insist that a 1.75 x 2.5 m (5.7 x 8.2 ft) sofa is sufficient. If the sofa really is enough, then why build such a large house? Do you like to dance the Viennese waltz?
I would really appreciate it if you could fully furnish the house virtually. That doesn’t mean you have to include every side table or the exact location of the dishwasher, but having basic furniture would be very helpful. Children’s rooms with a desk, bed, and wardrobe each. Bathrooms with a shower, sink, toilet, and possibly a bathtub. Walk-in closets with wardrobes. Etc.
I don’t understand why certain room sizes are chosen. You’re designing a 220 sqm (2,368 sq ft) house but insist that a 1.75 x 2.5 m (5.7 x 8.2 ft) sofa is sufficient. If the sofa really is enough, then why build such a large house? Do you like to dance the Viennese waltz?
I would really appreciate it if you could fully furnish the house virtually. That doesn’t mean you have to include every side table or the exact location of the dishwasher, but having basic furniture would be very helpful. Children’s rooms with a desk, bed, and wardrobe each. Bathrooms with a shower, sink, toilet, and possibly a bathtub. Walk-in closets with wardrobes. Etc.
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