ᐅ Single-family house for 4 people – Initial Design – Baden-Württemberg
Created on: 14 May 2020 12:37
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Malunga
Hello dear forum members,
we would also like to share our design with you as a reference.
The plot is number 84 according to the plan. (It will still be expanded to 504m² (5415 ft²))
Location is Baden-Württemberg.
But first, the essential key data:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 504m² (5415 ft²) - 17.7m x 28.5m (58 ft x 94 ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development: according to Baden-Württemberg regulations (2m (6.5 ft)?)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: Max. 2
Roof shape: Almost anything possible
Architectural style: Modern / Classic
Orientation: East / West
Maximum heights / Limits: Ridge height: 6.2m (20 ft); Eaves height: 8.6m (28 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic Modern
Basement, floors: Basement not desired; floors 1.5 (knee wall 1.80m (5 ft 11 in))
Number of occupants, age: Currently 2 (36/27), planned 4
Space requirements EG (ground floor), OG (upper floor):
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: Max 1-2
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Welcome
Music / stereo wall
Balcony; roof terrace: Not necessary
Garage, carport: Garage size for 4 motorcycles and workshop
Utility garden, greenhouse: Not necessary
House Design
Planning by:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
Open living and dining area
Bedroom facing south, bathroom facing east
Price estimate from architect/planner: Shell construction so far €330,000 (excluding garage), CLT construction method
Personal price limit for house including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating system: undecided so far
If you have to omit, which details/extras
- can you omit: smart home, 3 bathrooms, basement, sauna, balconies, dormers, etc.
- cannot omit: view to the south / southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
After countless drafts, we have now really fallen in love with this rough concept.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
The plot offers a great view to the south.
So far the unknown factor is the neighbors’ development. We want to plan so that it does not really matter how they build without restricting us much.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Of course, we would like some basic suggestions about the floor plan.
Too small, too large, senselessly planned...
We have tried to create simple structures. We don't need any special frills.
The main living area will be the primary room.
Do you think the children’s room sizes are sufficient? How is the lighting there? The windows were just roughly drawn in. Should / must skylights still be added there?
Before we add all the furniture, we would like to know in advance if the basic planning could work.
We have already placed the little house (still with rotated ridge) on the plot.
We are already looking forward to an engaging discussion and are open to every suggestion.
Best regards,
Matthias
PS: Just noticed I forgot the window in the dressing room; of course, it will be added later.
we would also like to share our design with you as a reference.
The plot is number 84 according to the plan. (It will still be expanded to 504m² (5415 ft²))
Location is Baden-Württemberg.
But first, the essential key data:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 504m² (5415 ft²) - 17.7m x 28.5m (58 ft x 94 ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development: according to Baden-Württemberg regulations (2m (6.5 ft)?)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: Max. 2
Roof shape: Almost anything possible
Architectural style: Modern / Classic
Orientation: East / West
Maximum heights / Limits: Ridge height: 6.2m (20 ft); Eaves height: 8.6m (28 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic Modern
Basement, floors: Basement not desired; floors 1.5 (knee wall 1.80m (5 ft 11 in))
Number of occupants, age: Currently 2 (36/27), planned 4
Space requirements EG (ground floor), OG (upper floor):
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: Max 1-2
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Welcome
Music / stereo wall
Balcony; roof terrace: Not necessary
Garage, carport: Garage size for 4 motorcycles and workshop
Utility garden, greenhouse: Not necessary
House Design
Planning by:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
Open living and dining area
Bedroom facing south, bathroom facing east
Price estimate from architect/planner: Shell construction so far €330,000 (excluding garage), CLT construction method
Personal price limit for house including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating system: undecided so far
If you have to omit, which details/extras
- can you omit: smart home, 3 bathrooms, basement, sauna, balconies, dormers, etc.
- cannot omit: view to the south / southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
After countless drafts, we have now really fallen in love with this rough concept.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
The plot offers a great view to the south.
So far the unknown factor is the neighbors’ development. We want to plan so that it does not really matter how they build without restricting us much.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Of course, we would like some basic suggestions about the floor plan.
Too small, too large, senselessly planned...
We have tried to create simple structures. We don't need any special frills.
The main living area will be the primary room.
Do you think the children’s room sizes are sufficient? How is the lighting there? The windows were just roughly drawn in. Should / must skylights still be added there?
Before we add all the furniture, we would like to know in advance if the basic planning could work.
We have already placed the little house (still with rotated ridge) on the plot.
We are already looking forward to an engaging discussion and are open to every suggestion.
Best regards,
Matthias
PS: Just noticed I forgot the window in the dressing room; of course, it will be added later.
kaho674 schrieb:
I also think it’s important to finally clarify the orientation. How is the house / floor plan positioned on the plot? It seems to me you don’t really know yourselves.But we do know; I’ll show you later. The floor plan is already oriented as shown.
Entrance at the top...
It will make sense eventually.
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Alessandro15 May 2020 09:54kaho674 schrieb:
The real question is which of the other rooms should be placed on the south side instead? The bedroom, where you mainly spend the night? Ridiculous. The bathroom is another option – but usually, the pipes run above the living room, and having the entire "chocolate side" (south-facing side) occupied by the bathroom is rather unusual. So what’s left except the walk-in closet (where some people don’t even use any light at all) and the kids’ rooms? I’d definitely put the kids’ rooms in the sun. They are the only ones who can actually use and enjoy the natural light. Of course, there are families who need a home office, etc. But those are individual solutions. I completely agree with you. I’m only referring to cases where it might not be possible to place the kids’ rooms on the south side without making compromises regarding comfort, size, and layout for the bedroom, bathroom, office, etc. It’s also a matter of priorities. For example, I wanted the master bedroom not to share a wall with a kids’ room, so I arranged both kids’ rooms and the guest room on one side, and the master bedroom with walk-in closet and bathroom on the other side of the hallway. As a result, it was unavoidable that one of the kids’ rooms is located on the northwest side.
In principle, I’m a fan of bright rooms, but I think today’s architecture and the demand for huge windows are often massively overdone. I’d rather forgo some natural light than sit like an exhibit in a zoo, exposed right in front of the neighbors. That’s why, in my opinion, the topic of light and window placement is very individual, which is why I often raise an eyebrow at many of the recommendations about it in forums.
I see the master bedroom is located in the southeast on the plans. I’m curious to see how it actually turns out.
Our three children’s bedrooms, like the master bedroom, all face south. The master bedroom also has a window facing east, and one of the children’s bedrooms has a small window to the west. All floor-to-ceiling windows facing south are about 2.40 meters (7 feet 10 inches) wide. When planning, it was important to us that all rooms have access to the balcony, which runs across the entire width of the house.
Well, 15 years later, I probably wouldn’t do it this way anymore. Especially when the kids spend a lot of time working or playing in front of screens, the sun becomes a problem. Despite a large roof overhang, we actually have to keep the shutters almost fully closed from noon onward. Our oldest child doesn’t tolerate heat at all. He would probably be happier with a room on the north/west side with light coming in from two directions. It would still be bright enough.
So, it really depends a lot on individual preferences, and having the children’s bedrooms facing south shouldn’t be seen as a strict rule. But Katja’s point is valid as well. What’s the alternative? Something has to face south, after all.
The width of the children’s bedrooms seems too small to me. Ours are the same length, but 3.15 to 3.30 meters (10 feet 4 inches to 10 feet 10 inches) wide. This leaves very little flexibility for furniture. A bed (140 by 200 centimeters (55 by 79 inches)) fits just next to the door. A wardrobe behind the door isn’t possible at all. Today, I would definitely pay more attention to more square room dimensions.
Our three children’s bedrooms, like the master bedroom, all face south. The master bedroom also has a window facing east, and one of the children’s bedrooms has a small window to the west. All floor-to-ceiling windows facing south are about 2.40 meters (7 feet 10 inches) wide. When planning, it was important to us that all rooms have access to the balcony, which runs across the entire width of the house.
Well, 15 years later, I probably wouldn’t do it this way anymore. Especially when the kids spend a lot of time working or playing in front of screens, the sun becomes a problem. Despite a large roof overhang, we actually have to keep the shutters almost fully closed from noon onward. Our oldest child doesn’t tolerate heat at all. He would probably be happier with a room on the north/west side with light coming in from two directions. It would still be bright enough.
So, it really depends a lot on individual preferences, and having the children’s bedrooms facing south shouldn’t be seen as a strict rule. But Katja’s point is valid as well. What’s the alternative? Something has to face south, after all.
The width of the children’s bedrooms seems too small to me. Ours are the same length, but 3.15 to 3.30 meters (10 feet 4 inches to 10 feet 10 inches) wide. This leaves very little flexibility for furniture. A bed (140 by 200 centimeters (55 by 79 inches)) fits just next to the door. A wardrobe behind the door isn’t possible at all. Today, I would definitely pay more attention to more square room dimensions.
Alessandro schrieb:
Basically, I am a fan of bright rooms, but I think that today’s architecture and the desire for huge windows is way over the top.
I think it’s wonderful. Alessandro schrieb:
I’d rather give up some light than feel like I’m on display in a zoo, exposed to the neighbors.
Not me. I don’t care about the neighbors. I’m a regular at the nudist beach anyway, one of the neighbors is the sister of my gynecologist—she’s even seen me from the inside of the house—and the rest can just look away. You’d be surprised how little people actually look into your house, even if they have the chance. Sure, there are a few peepers in the world, but most people prefer watching screens.
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