Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 sqm (28.5 x 40 m)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 5 available
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: gable roof
Orientation: gable must face the street.
Homeowner Requirements
Number of occupants: main house for 4 people (2 children and 2 adults); granny flat for 1-2 adults and age-appropriate extension for 2.
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use and home office (paperless office)
Overnight guests per year: varies
Enclosed architecture
Conservative or modern style
Closed kitchen with cooking island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Music/sound system wall
Roof terrace
Garage, carport available
Wishes/features/daily routine: pantry and cloakroom to remain in place. Opposite the pantry will be the family info wall (1.50 m wide).
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you dislike? Why?: On the upper floor there is currently a knee wall of 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in), but the windows cannot be opened (I find fall protection unattractive) and I would also like shutters there. However, then the window would only be 60 cm (24 in) high… I can’t really imagine how that would look.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 380,000€
Personal budget limit for the house: 252,000€ financed, rest as own contribution.
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you do without:
- cannot do without: separate utility room with washing machine including access to the yard.
Why was the design created as it is now? I specified the rooms based on my ideas and the architect implemented them.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters? Window planning, I can’t imagine how it will look.
Plot size: 1170 sqm (28.5 x 40 m)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 5 available
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: gable roof
Orientation: gable must face the street.
Homeowner Requirements
Number of occupants: main house for 4 people (2 children and 2 adults); granny flat for 1-2 adults and age-appropriate extension for 2.
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use and home office (paperless office)
Overnight guests per year: varies
Enclosed architecture
Conservative or modern style
Closed kitchen with cooking island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Music/sound system wall
Roof terrace
Garage, carport available
Wishes/features/daily routine: pantry and cloakroom to remain in place. Opposite the pantry will be the family info wall (1.50 m wide).
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you dislike? Why?: On the upper floor there is currently a knee wall of 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in), but the windows cannot be opened (I find fall protection unattractive) and I would also like shutters there. However, then the window would only be 60 cm (24 in) high… I can’t really imagine how that would look.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 380,000€
Personal budget limit for the house: 252,000€ financed, rest as own contribution.
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you do without:
- cannot do without: separate utility room with washing machine including access to the yard.
Why was the design created as it is now? I specified the rooms based on my ideas and the architect implemented them.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters? Window planning, I can’t imagine how it will look.
Unfortunately, you provide a lot of measurements but do not share a dimensioned floor plan with us.
And generally, your knee wall issue remains unresolved. What speaks against constructing it as a full story? There is enough ground floor area available, right? Or what exactly does the zoning plan / building permit regulation state?
There are still some quirks in the design—in my opinion, for example, the bathroom in the senior apartment: having two entrances is really impractical if the bathroom also serves as a guest toilet. A large hallway, but hardly any space to move around in the bedroom. Even if your parents are still agile now, when building a retirement apartment, you should think 10 to 20 years ahead. A walker might become necessary, or something similar.
I already mentioned the basement apartment; I think it is completely misplanned. I would take that area and first design the ideal basement apartment, then check if it is possible to connect it to the main house as an interim solution for your son. If not, then your son will have to access it from outside.
And generally, your knee wall issue remains unresolved. What speaks against constructing it as a full story? There is enough ground floor area available, right? Or what exactly does the zoning plan / building permit regulation state?
There are still some quirks in the design—in my opinion, for example, the bathroom in the senior apartment: having two entrances is really impractical if the bathroom also serves as a guest toilet. A large hallway, but hardly any space to move around in the bedroom. Even if your parents are still agile now, when building a retirement apartment, you should think 10 to 20 years ahead. A walker might become necessary, or something similar.
I already mentioned the basement apartment; I think it is completely misplanned. I would take that area and first design the ideal basement apartment, then check if it is possible to connect it to the main house as an interim solution for your son. If not, then your son will have to access it from outside.
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toxicmolotof5 Oct 2017 08:14Just quickly, because the headline caught my interest, but I found chaos inside:
- “Anteroom” bedroom without windows (and without/with little purpose)
- Wastewater in bathroom 2 problematic
- The area for the 3rd generation is not clearly separated
- Circulation space as large as a highway, or two
- Cost estimate unrealistically low
- Share of self-labor unrealistically high, unless you do everything yourself
- Wardrobe and storage room barely usable
Does the huge house also have a basement and/or a garage?
- If you hadn’t said otherwise, I would have assumed: personal design, no architect
Positive: The bungalow for the first generation seems good to me, except that I would plan that part completely barrier-free with only minor changes.
- “Anteroom” bedroom without windows (and without/with little purpose)
- Wastewater in bathroom 2 problematic
- The area for the 3rd generation is not clearly separated
- Circulation space as large as a highway, or two
- Cost estimate unrealistically low
- Share of self-labor unrealistically high, unless you do everything yourself
- Wardrobe and storage room barely usable
Does the huge house also have a basement and/or a garage?
- If you hadn’t said otherwise, I would have assumed: personal design, no architect
Positive: The bungalow for the first generation seems good to me, except that I would plan that part completely barrier-free with only minor changes.
I will be at the architect’s office for half the day tomorrow. Then I will get a detailed printed plan.
There is no zoning plan, but the requirement is that the building must fit into the streetscape. Therefore, it is limited to a maximum of 1.5 stories. The preliminary building inquiry has already been approved.
The extension for grandma is planned to be fully accessible, with extra-wide doors. The architect definitely has expertise in this area. There are several senior living facilities nearby that he has designed.
Well, for a townhouse from a developer, everyone raved about the floor plan, but I was the only one who found it completely impractical (and I was right—after moving in, the things I mentioned really bothered people 😊).
You’re welcome to come and take a look when it’s ready.
There is no zoning plan, but the requirement is that the building must fit into the streetscape. Therefore, it is limited to a maximum of 1.5 stories. The preliminary building inquiry has already been approved.
The extension for grandma is planned to be fully accessible, with extra-wide doors. The architect definitely has expertise in this area. There are several senior living facilities nearby that he has designed.
Well, for a townhouse from a developer, everyone raved about the floor plan, but I was the only one who found it completely impractical (and I was right—after moving in, the things I mentioned really bothered people 😊).
You’re welcome to come and take a look when it’s ready.
What exactly are you expecting from this thread? Are you looking for the forum's approval of your personally perfect plan? And why do you keep focusing on some vague row houses or prefabricated houses from developers? Do you think your house is the only custom-designed one here on the forum? What’s so bad about a developer anyway? There are many experienced, innovative, and creative people working for developers as well... If you can’t handle criticism of your plan, then you shouldn’t be posting something like this here. I also had to take a lot of criticism, but it was worth it! Unfortunately, I find your responses quite arrogant and condescending—sorry, but that’s not a basis for a constructive discussion for me.
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toxicmolotof5 Oct 2017 08:41There are only single-story or two-story options. But I think I can guess what you mean by 1.5 stories. With a knee wall height of 1.80 meters (5 ft 11 in), you are clearly dealing with a two-story layout based on the floor plan.
This forum is not about personal taste, but about functionality.
Only your taste can be found in this design.
We are not criticizing your taste, but rather pointing out that there are more functional alternatives.
This also applies to stairs, and surely your preference lies more in the wood and color than in what is called functionality here.
A pantry where two people can retrieve items simultaneously is more practical than a narrow corridor.
And a cloakroom where you don’t have to constantly look from side to side, opening a sliding door fully each time, is also exhausting. Well, it’s your house, so you will have to deal with any mistakes.
And again, a reminder: doors that are one meter wide do not make living spaces accessible; more is needed for that. This is called barrier-free design and should ideally work well for an active elderly person, possibly using a walking stick.
By the way, terraced houses (townhouses) are planned differently by the builder or architect than single-family homes. Usually, the focus there is more on cost efficiency and, of course, on using living space sparingly. Objectivity does not seem to be your strong suit 😉
Only your taste can be found in this design.
We are not criticizing your taste, but rather pointing out that there are more functional alternatives.
This also applies to stairs, and surely your preference lies more in the wood and color than in what is called functionality here.
A pantry where two people can retrieve items simultaneously is more practical than a narrow corridor.
And a cloakroom where you don’t have to constantly look from side to side, opening a sliding door fully each time, is also exhausting. Well, it’s your house, so you will have to deal with any mistakes.
And again, a reminder: doors that are one meter wide do not make living spaces accessible; more is needed for that. This is called barrier-free design and should ideally work well for an active elderly person, possibly using a walking stick.
By the way, terraced houses (townhouses) are planned differently by the builder or architect than single-family homes. Usually, the focus there is more on cost efficiency and, of course, on using living space sparingly. Objectivity does not seem to be your strong suit 😉
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