ᐅ House Planning for Three Generations

Created on: 3 Oct 2017 09:46
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ninfa
ninfa3 Oct 2017 09:46
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 sqm (28.5 x 40 m)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 5 available
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: gable roof
Orientation: gable must face the street.

Homeowner Requirements
Number of occupants: main house for 4 people (2 children and 2 adults); granny flat for 1-2 adults and age-appropriate extension for 2.
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use and home office (paperless office)
Overnight guests per year: varies
Enclosed architecture
Conservative or modern style
Closed kitchen with cooking island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no

Music/sound system wall
Roof terrace
Garage, carport available
Wishes/features/daily routine: pantry and cloakroom to remain in place. Opposite the pantry will be the family info wall (1.50 m wide).

House Design
Designed by:
- Architect

What do you dislike? Why?: On the upper floor there is currently a knee wall of 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in), but the windows cannot be opened (I find fall protection unattractive) and I would also like shutters there. However, then the window would only be 60 cm (24 in) high… I can’t really imagine how that would look.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 380,000€
Personal budget limit for the house: 252,000€ financed, rest as own contribution.
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump

If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you do without:
- cannot do without: separate utility room with washing machine including access to the yard.

Why was the design created as it is now? I specified the rooms based on my ideas and the architect implemented them.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters? Window planning, I can’t imagine how it will look.
ninfa3 Oct 2017 09:58
Here are the pictures.

3D rendering of a modern multi-story house with a dark facade and terrace.


Detailed floor plan of a house with kitchen, living room, bedroom, and bathroom


Floor plan of a house with bedroom, kitchen, bathroom, and staircase
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matte
3 Oct 2017 10:14
Where is the third generation here? I only see two.

Sorry, but what’s the deal with the two children’s rooms measuring 31 and 36m² (335 and 388 sq ft)?
In contrast, a double bedroom is squeezed into 10m² (108 sq ft), and there’s a walk-in closet that can only be accessed by one person at a time because two people can’t pass each other inside.

Sorry, but it kind of feels like the third living unit is more of a joke.
I don’t want to accuse anyone, but the first thing that comes to mind is collecting subsidies, which would naturally increase with multiple living units...

Assuming that child 2’s room with bathroom 2 is supposed to be the third living unit, how do you get there?
Via the external staircase?

Regarding the ground floor:

Why do the utility room and house technology room need to be separate? That doesn’t make things easier.
Then there’s another bedroom including a closet at 12m² (129 sq ft).
The proportions just don’t add up for me at all. Why not simply move the office upstairs and make the children’s room smaller?
On the ground floor, combine the utility room and house technology room, that would free up some space for the bedroom and an “age-appropriate” bathroom.

Don’t take it the wrong way, but a lot of things just don’t seem to fit for me...
ninfa3 Oct 2017 11:34
Main house with a granny flat (=Kind2 - my older son) and an age-appropriate extension (where grandma will move in). That makes three. The granny flat can be accessed through the main house and via the outdoor staircase (at the extension) over the roof terrace.

Take advantage of subsidies? I’m not aware of any.

The utility room is purely for laundry, and the utility room will also house the technical equipment and storage.

I don’t need anything age-appropriate in the main house.

The bedroom on the ground floor is initially the guest/kids’ room.

Upstairs, I only want to sleep (for that, I just need the bed), and the area with the wardrobes is not a walk-in closet (I don’t need one).

Kind1 is intentionally large (after all, he plays a lot with Lego).
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kbt09
3 Oct 2017 13:40
The site plan, north arrow, floor plan dimensions, etc., are missing. The plans are quite hard to read. More targeted scanning of just the drawing area would make viewing easier, and properly rotating house elevations to avoid awkward screen tilting would be appreciated 😉. For example, where are the terraces, the 5 parking spaces, the street, and so on?

Otherwise, I agree with Matte1987... everything seems quite convoluted, for example the cloakroom and pantry. It would probably be simpler to create two straightforward, separate areas there. Although I would check the pantry anyway, considering the kitchen size. Four dining seats are indicated... does that mean in the dining room?

The master bedroom area... perhaps it is meant to be just a closet space, but the bedroom/closet solution is still not very appealing. Neither is the entrance to the Lego kids’ room for Child 1.

The staircase from the ground floor to the upper floor ends right in front of a wall. That should be avoidable.

I also find the entrance to the secondary apartment with the bed right next to it (where would a coat rack go?) not very well thought out.

What is supposed to happen with the multi-generation extension on the roof?

Regarding the knee wall height of 180cm (5 feet 11 inches)... that would definitely not be my preference. The glass top edge of a window, even without shutters, is usually at a maximum height of about 160cm (5 feet 3 inches). For people who are 180cm (5 feet 11 inches) tall, that’s problematic. You enter rooms and cannot look out the window. Also, the bathrooms on the upper floor caught my attention. The standing height there should be checked urgently.
ninfa schrieb:
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 380,000€
Personal budget for the house: 252,000€ financed, the rest as self-performed work.

Almost 130,000 euros self-performed work sounds ambitious. What exactly is supposed to be done yourself, or do you mean equity? Also, the total price of 380,000 euros. The house is overall quite intricate, with that large roof area fenced with railings, etc.
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ivenh0
3 Oct 2017 18:02
Approximately 300m² (3,230 sq ft) of living space for €380,000? Completely unrealistic