ᐅ Handleless kitchen fronts, good quality and affordable – which manufacturer?
Created on: 2 Mar 2020 17:21
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PeterHawaii
Hello everyone,
we are currently looking into the kitchen for our newly built single-family home. After the first visits to suppliers (2 large chains and 1 small studio), the general conclusion is: a frustrating black box with no price transparency – the estimates were often well above the stated budget, and none of the appointments included a written quote to prevent easy comparison.
My question is: which provider/manufacturer would you consider for the following requirements:
Kitchen layout: G-shaped kitchen, no wall cabinets
Design: handleless kitchen
Kitchen length: just under 11m (36 feet), all base cabinets except for 2 tall cabinets for fridge-freezer combo and oven + microwave
Worktop height: 90cm (35 inches)
Worktop: integrated into window frame, replacing the windowsill. Option 1: laminate, thickness approx. 25mm (1 inch). Option 2: engineered stone, thickness approx. 25mm (1 inch).
Front price category: PG 3 or PG 4, real matte lacquer
Splashback: matte glass
Target price would be under €6,500 (including sink and faucet combined about €400 online) and laminate worktop, without appliances, including delivery and installation (kitchen and externally sourced appliances), so roughly €600 (about $660) per meter.
Current quote for electrical appliances: €5,180 gross including delivery to curbside.
Do you think this is achievable, or do we need to lower our requirements (fronts price group / appliances) to stay under €12,000? At Ikea, we would be around €3,500 plus assembly without appliances, but their selection of handleless fronts does not suit us.
Thank you very much for your advice.
we are currently looking into the kitchen for our newly built single-family home. After the first visits to suppliers (2 large chains and 1 small studio), the general conclusion is: a frustrating black box with no price transparency – the estimates were often well above the stated budget, and none of the appointments included a written quote to prevent easy comparison.
My question is: which provider/manufacturer would you consider for the following requirements:
Kitchen layout: G-shaped kitchen, no wall cabinets
Design: handleless kitchen
Kitchen length: just under 11m (36 feet), all base cabinets except for 2 tall cabinets for fridge-freezer combo and oven + microwave
Worktop height: 90cm (35 inches)
Worktop: integrated into window frame, replacing the windowsill. Option 1: laminate, thickness approx. 25mm (1 inch). Option 2: engineered stone, thickness approx. 25mm (1 inch).
Front price category: PG 3 or PG 4, real matte lacquer
Splashback: matte glass
Target price would be under €6,500 (including sink and faucet combined about €400 online) and laminate worktop, without appliances, including delivery and installation (kitchen and externally sourced appliances), so roughly €600 (about $660) per meter.
Current quote for electrical appliances: €5,180 gross including delivery to curbside.
Do you think this is achievable, or do we need to lower our requirements (fronts price group / appliances) to stay under €12,000? At Ikea, we would be around €3,500 plus assembly without appliances, but their selection of handleless fronts does not suit us.
Thank you very much for your advice.
Tolentino schrieb:
Apparently the same goes for the appliances...The last time I checked, the insulation of the appliances was still terrible: the oven's interior dimensions are smaller than those of other brand-name appliances.
Yes, I’m just repeating what has already been said here by the multipliers @pagoni2020 and @Bertram100.
However, if most appliances today are AEG (which seems plausible, since it’s part of Electrolux – from Sweden), then generally speaking, that’s not bad quality. I’m not specifically familiar with all ovens and such, though.
When was the last time you did a comparison?
However, if most appliances today are AEG (which seems plausible, since it’s part of Electrolux – from Sweden), then generally speaking, that’s not bad quality. I’m not specifically familiar with all ovens and such, though.
When was the last time you did a comparison?
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pagoni202017 Jun 2020 12:14ypg schrieb:
The last time I compared, the insulation of the appliances was still terrible: the oven had smaller interior dimensions than other brand-name appliances. I had already bought other appliances online, Miele, Siemens... although various tests show that there are pros and cons with each. Honestly, kitchen appliance insulation was never on my list; I don’t believe that IKEA means disaster and other brands are automatically better. IKEA doesn’t manufacture appliances themselves, just like many other brands that outsource production under license. Again, I’m not trying to promote anything, but overall (and considering not only good price but also service/warranty), I’m very satisfied with IKEA kitchens and could design a stylish kitchen for virtually any floor plan.
Many years ago, a friend of mine who is a kitchen fitter built me a kitchen for 40,000 DM! It was excellent and is still in use today. But in daily use, I hardly notice any difference. For 40,000 DM, I could build several IKEA kitchens. Appearance, price, as well as warranty and returns of parts were important to me, alongside good overall functionality. On the other hand, I face an IKEA sofa and think... no way, not that. As I said, everyone must decide for themselves, but the familiar quality gap in this comparison has definitely disappeared.
I also received a good offer from a reputable brand, and the salesperson demonstrated the extendable kitchen drawer by standing in it. That was impressive and eye-catching. But I rarely stand in drawers myself, and the load capacity of my IKEA drawers is really excellent... especially at such a good price.
One more question. Are the standard parts, like carcasses and fronts, as well as assembly components, usually available for immediate pickup, or does everything have to be ordered? It is clear that the countertop is made to measure.
Does anyone know about this?
I'm considering buying the cabinets in Poland. IKEA is 20-30% cheaper there...
Does anyone know about this?
I'm considering buying the cabinets in Poland. IKEA is 20-30% cheaper there...
Tolentino schrieb:
One more question. Are the standard components like carcasses, fronts, and mounting parts usually available for immediate pickup, or does everything have to be ordered? The countertop will be custom-made, that’s clear.
Does anyone know?
I’m considering buying the cabinets in Poland since IKEA is 20-30% cheaper there... I went to IKEA six times for our kitchen units in the utility room because ordering wasn’t possible and the doors in the color I wanted were often in stock. The same applied to the handles. Even the website was misleading, showing 22 handles supposedly in stock, and so on. I think that’s the main downside.
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pagoni202017 Jun 2020 14:08Tolentino schrieb:
Just a quick question. Are the standard parts like cabinet boxes and fronts, as well as mounting accessories, usually available for immediate pickup, or do you have to order everything? The countertop is custom-made, that’s clear.
Does anyone know?
I’m considering buying the cabinets in Poland. IKEA is about 20-30% cheaper there... You always need to check this in advance (a phone call is possible). They usually keep several standard-sized countertops in stock, otherwise they are custom-made. Things like cabinet boxes, nice word by the way, drawers, rails, etc. were always available. But you might have to make a second trip anyway, if you decide to change something on-site or return extras.
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