Hello everyone...
After our first floor plan attempt failed completely, we worked with the architect to develop two more ground floor versions and one for the upper floor. I would like to know which ones you find good or bad, and what you generally like or dislike about the floor plans?! Also, the pantry door is drawn a bit oddly; it won’t actually look like that...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size approximately 480 square meters (5167 square feet)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: No
Building coverage ratio: No
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 19 meters (62 feet)
Edge development: No
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof shape: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: terrace to the west, bay window to the south
Maximum heights/limits:
Additional specifications:
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type:
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 2
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office?
Occasional guests per year: family occasionally
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern building method:
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats:
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace:
Garage, carport:
Utility garden, greenhouse:
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like and why?
What do you not like and why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system:
Heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details or extensions:
- can you do without
- cannot do without:
Open kitchen, guest room, window in every room
After our first floor plan attempt failed completely, we worked with the architect to develop two more ground floor versions and one for the upper floor. I would like to know which ones you find good or bad, and what you generally like or dislike about the floor plans?! Also, the pantry door is drawn a bit oddly; it won’t actually look like that...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size approximately 480 square meters (5167 square feet)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: No
Building coverage ratio: No
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 19 meters (62 feet)
Edge development: No
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof shape: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: terrace to the west, bay window to the south
Maximum heights/limits:
Additional specifications:
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type:
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 2
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office?
Occasional guests per year: family occasionally
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern building method:
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats:
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace:
Garage, carport:
Utility garden, greenhouse:
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like and why?
What do you not like and why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system:
Heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details or extensions:
- can you do without
- cannot do without:
Open kitchen, guest room, window in every room
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Ev-Marie8618 May 2017 15:37I’m trying again without a pantry... it’s worth a shot... Maybe I’ll get it right this time... I’m definitely still inflexible... it’s just not that easy to let go of certain ideas... :rolleyes _O
Ev-Marie86 schrieb:
I’ll try again without a pantry... [...] it’s just not that easy to give up certain ideasSome of those ideas shouldn’t be given up, even though I generally support you becoming more flexible on this. You can’t have all your wishes fulfilled at once, or you might end up hindering yourself. But simply crossing them off shouldn't be done lightly either; rather, you should categorize your wishes into “must-have,” “nice-to-have,” and so on.
In my latest proposal, the pantry wouldn’t be a major obstacle in the overall concept, but without it, the utility room would have to be much smaller, unless you reduce the size of the guest/workroom or remove the cloakroom.
By the way, in my latest suggestion, the pantry could easily be moved to one of the north corners of the utility room.
I’m a fan of the classic pantry (especially for food items that require a stable, almost cellar-like climate). That means I’m not a supporter of using the pantry as a chaotic storage space for bulk purchases, and I also agree with your idea to keep it separate from the boiler room.
But however you feel about it: I know it’s probably a matter of personal preference. And I’m not in favor of trying to “re-educate” anyone. It’s the same with the cloakroom: it’s your house, and if you’re okay with storing clothes in the workroom, then don’t build a formal cloakroom in your home just because of opinions from forum participants.
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11ant schrieb:
I am a fan of the traditional pantry (especially for food items that benefit from a stable, almost cellar-like climate). However, this is not practical to achieve in a new build without a basement. Just because the small room doesn’t have its own heating doesn’t mean it will be significantly cooler than the adjoining kitchen. Of course, you could try making it airtight, insulated, or even actively cooled. But then it becomes basically a fridge—at much higher cost.
In my opinion, the pantry is simply outdated.
There is a supermarket on every corner offering all kinds of fresh food year-round.
Refrigerators are large and inexpensive.
The pantry, as it was in grandma’s times, is simply obsolete.
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Ev-Marie8618 May 2017 16:37And one more thing is the staircase... I’ll have to reconsider that as well... However, I don’t really like it in the living area... rather somewhere in the hallway... but I still need to figure that out. It’s important to me to place the kitchen and living room on the “nice” southwest side... I also like your idea of having the dining table in the bay window... a window in the bathroom would be good too... as well as a door to the outside from the utility room, although I would consider the latter a nice-to-have... Now I just need to find a suitable layout...
apokolok schrieb:
Just because the small pantry won’t have its own heating, it won’t be significantly cooler there than in the adjacent kitchen. Actually, we’ve had several apartments where that worked perfectly. North-facing, separated from the kitchen by a wall, with continuous ventilation through the exterior wall.
apokolok schrieb:
The pantry like in grandma’s time is simply obsolete. No, because there are still (or again) people who want it that way. But we already had a thorough discussion about this in HansHaus’s thread https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/1-Entwurf-Grundriss-efh-150-qm.18592/ back in February.
Ev-Marie86 schrieb:
And another point is the stairs... I’ll also try to push on that... My main focus there is to position the stair exit close to the center.
Ev-Marie86 schrieb:
A window in the toilet would also be good... That would be my lowest priority: as long as two users don’t have diarrhea one after another, ventilation won’t be overwhelmed that quickly. You don’t really look out onto a pleasant view there anyway.
Ev-Marie86 schrieb:
Also the door from the utility room to the outside... though I would rate that as a nice-to-have... That depends on how much you like working in the garden, or how quickly you manage to potty-train the kids. As a simple entrance for bringing in groceries, I wouldn’t consider that door very important either.
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