ᐅ Air-to-Water Heat Pump: Current Consumption and Data

Created on: 29 Sep 2020 11:06
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Bookstar
Hello!
I'll start.
Heated area 200m2 (2,153 sq ft)
KfW 55 standard
Mechanical ventilation with heat recovery
Current outdoor temperature 6°C (43°F)
Heating energy consumption including hot water 35 kWh
Electricity consumption 9 kWh
COP 3.88
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Bookstar
15 Jan 2021 14:00
Zaba12 schrieb:

It’s actually quite simple: everyone has a baseline they are willing to exceed and pay more or consume more, even if it’s not strictly necessary.

I don’t need an iPhone 12, but I want one. At the same time, like 75% of the population, I could easily use an Android phone.

It’s the same with the required temperature in our house. Similarly, in this case, an Android phone is enough for us 🙂

It only becomes critical when someone wants something they can’t afford but still consumes it.
It’s only luxury if you can’t afford it. That generally isn’t the case here 🙂

This implies that an iPhone would be better than an Android. But you can definitely see it differently 🙂. I have zero issues with my Samsung, while my wife’s iPhone constantly causes trouble (battery problems in subzero temperatures, Bluetooth failures, backup errors...).

I think it’s more about buying a product based on the manufacturer’s promises and specs. In the end, it works like a crutch. As a customer, that really feels like being ripped off.
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Alessandro
18 Jan 2021 08:10
I agree with that as well @Bookstar.

Over the weekend, I tried using timers.
From 3:00 AM to 7:00 AM and from 3:00 PM to 7:00 PM, I increased the heating by 3°C (5.4°F).
In 4 hours, the bathroom temperature only went up by an incredible 0.2°C (0.36°F)!
So, it makes absolutely no sense...
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T_im_Norden
18 Jan 2021 09:21
Underfloor heating can take up to 48 hours to respond to changes, so time schedules are ineffective.
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Zaba12
18 Jan 2021 09:22
Welcome back to the land of problematic heat pumps and odd DTA files.
Nothing has changed; the flow rate remained at 1380 liters per hour (l/h) without the buffer tank, and the heat pump is still operating erratically.

Last chance to include the buffer tank with a flow rate of 3 x 60 liters per hour (l/h). Now I don’t care anymore. Fortunately, the outside temperatures are rising, so heating the buffer tank won’t be too expensive. This brings the total flow rate to 1560 liters per hour (l/h), which is the nominal capacity. If it still doesn’t run steadily, my only option left is the AI service.

@Daniel-Sp: What’s your guess on this? Could it really be that the heat pump has too low a flow rate (1380 liters per hour (l/h))?

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Bookstar
18 Jan 2021 10:20
Zaba12 schrieb:

Welcome back to the land of problematic heat pumps and strange DTA files.
Nothing has changed, the flow rate was still 1380 l/h (0.58 gallons per minute) without the thermal store, and the heat pump is doing whatever it wants.

Last chance to integrate the thermal store with a flow rate of 3 x 60 l/h (3 x 0.26 gallons per minute). At this point, I don’t care anymore. Fortunately, the outside temperatures are rising, so heating the thermal store won’t be that costly. That brings the total flow rate to 1560 l/h (0.69 gallons per minute), which is the nominal capacity. If it still doesn’t run steadily, my only option left is AI service.

@Daniel-Sp: What’s your guess on the issue? Could it really be that the heat pump has too low a flow rate (or had too low a flow rate) at 1380 l/h?

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But how can it be too low flow? We have read that I modulate with 800 l/h (0.35 gallons per minute), and someone else here with a similar value? Or do you not have a modulating heat pump?
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Zaba12
18 Jan 2021 10:24
According to the manufacturer, the minimum flow rate for the heat pump is 1200 liters per hour (l/h). Last time, I was well below that with 1041 l/h.

The nominal flow rate is 1600 l/h. With yesterday’s 1380 l/h, I was still quite far from that and hope this is the reason. I am now at 1580 l/h in the basement. I will monitor it for 48 hours.