ᐅ Bathroom Planning – No Suitable Solution for the Bathroom

Created on: 16 May 2023 14:41
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Stein2023
Hello everyone,

we are struggling with our bathroom layout, including the plumbing plan. I hope I can explain the conditions clearly:

- Dimensions: 3.50 by 4 meters (11.5 by 13 feet)
- Below the bathroom is the guest room. Most likely, there will be a plumbing line coming down at one corner, which is acceptable. Two plumbing lines are a no-go.
- The two windows can still be moved a few centimeters.
- We are completely flexible with the two doors.
- In the bathroom, we would like: a walk-in shower, a double sink, washer and dryer (here a countertop can be used to cover a possible half-height partition wall. That means the countertop can be placed on top of the half-height partition wall)

I can’t manage to combine all components without needing a second plumbing line. Is it perhaps possible to install sanitary fixtures on the opposite wall and route the drain pipes to the other wall? Maybe we are overcomplicating things?

Here is one solution where we can route the plumbing from the sink around the corner workspace:

Grundriss eines Badezimmers mit Toilette, Waschbecken und rotem L-Möbel; angrenzende Ankleide.


3D-Küchen-Grundriss von oben mit Spüle rechts und Holzboden.


Does anyone have suggestions for optimization? We are not happy with the current solution.
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Stein2023
17 May 2023 19:24
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

Maybe it could work this way. With the bathtub on the other side.

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We have considered your alternative. I briefly replied that we originally planned it that way (children’s bathroom + master bathroom) plus a storage room with washing machine and dryer, but we have moved away from that idea. We now want one large bathroom.
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Stein2023
17 May 2023 19:32
K a t j a schrieb:

In my opinion, the entire parent area is misleading. How wide is the walkway next to the bed along the exterior wall? It can’t be more than 50cm (20 inches), where you have to squeeze along the wall every morning and evening.
The dressing room’s allocated space is a joke considering the size of the house. The dressing room itself is dark as a cave.
The additional door in the bathroom adds almost no value, but its drawbacks are considerable.
It’s also unfortunate that the washing machine has to be in the bathroom given the size of the house.
At this planning stage, the piping wouldn’t be my main concern yet.

Ok, we need to clarify the dimensions again:

2D floor plan: bedroom, bathroom, and balcony with wood flooring

So far, we actually had no window planned for the dressing room.

And here is the ground floor below for further bathroom planning:

Floor plan: living room on the left with sofa and two armchairs, guest room on the right, staircase at the top.


As you can see, below the bathroom at the same size is the guest room. No alternative pipes that could be used are available. As @kbt09 already mentioned, it’s not ideal to route all the plumbing to a single waste pipe around half of the bathroom. Therefore, we will have to live with two separate waste lines running through the guest WC on two sides.
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Schorsch_baut
17 May 2023 20:20
Now you have a large bathroom on the plan, but it’s an unattractive multipurpose room with two doors. Where the washing area is, there are also detergent and laundry baskets. I would reconsider the priorities. I’d rather share the bathroom with the messy kids, pardon, children, than with the dirty laundry. 🙂
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kbt09
17 May 2023 20:24
And why not place the two children's bedrooms on the south side and the bedroom/bathroom on the north side, which would put the bathroom above the ground floor bathroom if you choose the overall floor plan from post 66 of the floor plan thread?

Floor plan: ground floor with living room, kitchen; upper floor with hallway, two children's rooms, balcony, roof terrace.

Perhaps the staircase would need to be shifted slightly further south or something like that.

And regarding the bedroom layout... 20 sqm (215 sq ft) for a 3 m (10 ft) wardrobe and a bed, which with a 2 m (6.5 ft) mattress width leaves a 50 cm (20 inch) walkway along the exterior wall... I don’t find that very well planned.
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hanghaus2023
17 May 2023 20:40
I’m not sure if your planner had a few too many beers. The placement of the doors seems more random than planned.

If I were coming up the stairs, I would try to take the shortest route. In the bathroom, it’s best to position the doors as close to the corner as possible so the walls have space for fixtures.

For example, like this?


Floor plan of an apartment: bedroom, bathroom, hallway, balcony on the left.
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Stein2023
17 May 2023 20:51
kbt09 schrieb:

And why not place the two children's bedrooms on the south side and the master bedroom/bathroom on the north, so that the bathroom would be above the ground floor bathroom, if you use the overall floor plan from post 66 of the floor plan thread?

This was due to structural reasons: the walls on the upper floor must be aligned above the walls on the ground floor. Therefore, we switched the master bedroom and the children's rooms.