ᐅ Single-family house for 4 people – Initial Design – Baden-Württemberg
Created on: 14 May 2020 12:37
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Malunga
Hello dear forum members,
we would also like to share our design with you as a reference.
The plot is number 84 according to the plan. (It will still be expanded to 504m² (5415 ft²))
Location is Baden-Württemberg.
But first, the essential key data:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 504m² (5415 ft²) - 17.7m x 28.5m (58 ft x 94 ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development: according to Baden-Württemberg regulations (2m (6.5 ft)?)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: Max. 2
Roof shape: Almost anything possible
Architectural style: Modern / Classic
Orientation: East / West
Maximum heights / Limits: Ridge height: 6.2m (20 ft); Eaves height: 8.6m (28 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic Modern
Basement, floors: Basement not desired; floors 1.5 (knee wall 1.80m (5 ft 11 in))
Number of occupants, age: Currently 2 (36/27), planned 4
Space requirements EG (ground floor), OG (upper floor):
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: Max 1-2
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Welcome
Music / stereo wall
Balcony; roof terrace: Not necessary
Garage, carport: Garage size for 4 motorcycles and workshop
Utility garden, greenhouse: Not necessary
House Design
Planning by:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
Open living and dining area
Bedroom facing south, bathroom facing east
Price estimate from architect/planner: Shell construction so far €330,000 (excluding garage), CLT construction method
Personal price limit for house including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating system: undecided so far
If you have to omit, which details/extras
- can you omit: smart home, 3 bathrooms, basement, sauna, balconies, dormers, etc.
- cannot omit: view to the south / southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
After countless drafts, we have now really fallen in love with this rough concept.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
The plot offers a great view to the south.
So far the unknown factor is the neighbors’ development. We want to plan so that it does not really matter how they build without restricting us much.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Of course, we would like some basic suggestions about the floor plan.
Too small, too large, senselessly planned...
We have tried to create simple structures. We don't need any special frills.
The main living area will be the primary room.
Do you think the children’s room sizes are sufficient? How is the lighting there? The windows were just roughly drawn in. Should / must skylights still be added there?
Before we add all the furniture, we would like to know in advance if the basic planning could work.
We have already placed the little house (still with rotated ridge) on the plot.
We are already looking forward to an engaging discussion and are open to every suggestion.
Best regards,
Matthias
PS: Just noticed I forgot the window in the dressing room; of course, it will be added later.
we would also like to share our design with you as a reference.
The plot is number 84 according to the plan. (It will still be expanded to 504m² (5415 ft²))
Location is Baden-Württemberg.
But first, the essential key data:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 504m² (5415 ft²) - 17.7m x 28.5m (58 ft x 94 ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development: according to Baden-Württemberg regulations (2m (6.5 ft)?)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: Max. 2
Roof shape: Almost anything possible
Architectural style: Modern / Classic
Orientation: East / West
Maximum heights / Limits: Ridge height: 6.2m (20 ft); Eaves height: 8.6m (28 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic Modern
Basement, floors: Basement not desired; floors 1.5 (knee wall 1.80m (5 ft 11 in))
Number of occupants, age: Currently 2 (36/27), planned 4
Space requirements EG (ground floor), OG (upper floor):
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: Max 1-2
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Welcome
Music / stereo wall
Balcony; roof terrace: Not necessary
Garage, carport: Garage size for 4 motorcycles and workshop
Utility garden, greenhouse: Not necessary
House Design
Planning by:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
Open living and dining area
Bedroom facing south, bathroom facing east
Price estimate from architect/planner: Shell construction so far €330,000 (excluding garage), CLT construction method
Personal price limit for house including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating system: undecided so far
If you have to omit, which details/extras
- can you omit: smart home, 3 bathrooms, basement, sauna, balconies, dormers, etc.
- cannot omit: view to the south / southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
After countless drafts, we have now really fallen in love with this rough concept.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
The plot offers a great view to the south.
So far the unknown factor is the neighbors’ development. We want to plan so that it does not really matter how they build without restricting us much.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Of course, we would like some basic suggestions about the floor plan.
Too small, too large, senselessly planned...
We have tried to create simple structures. We don't need any special frills.
The main living area will be the primary room.
Do you think the children’s room sizes are sufficient? How is the lighting there? The windows were just roughly drawn in. Should / must skylights still be added there?
Before we add all the furniture, we would like to know in advance if the basic planning could work.
We have already placed the little house (still with rotated ridge) on the plot.
We are already looking forward to an engaging discussion and are open to every suggestion.
Best regards,
Matthias
PS: Just noticed I forgot the window in the dressing room; of course, it will be added later.
I quite like the lower floor plan—aside from the chimney placed right in the middle of the room—but the layout upstairs seems rather awkward to me.
There is a huge storage room with no other purpose, the bathroom isn’t very appealing and it’s not even furnished yet! Bedrooms facing south—why would anyone want that? Do people want to lie in bed during the day and block the kids from enjoying the southern sunlight? The children would probably prefer to have that light while playing in their room. One of the children’s rooms only has windows on one side, which is a real shame.
I would take the upper floor plan and completely scrap it. The staircase position is optimized only for the ground floor, which creates a narrow strip of unusable space behind the stairs upstairs—hardly practical at all.
There is a huge storage room with no other purpose, the bathroom isn’t very appealing and it’s not even furnished yet! Bedrooms facing south—why would anyone want that? Do people want to lie in bed during the day and block the kids from enjoying the southern sunlight? The children would probably prefer to have that light while playing in their room. One of the children’s rooms only has windows on one side, which is a real shame.
I would take the upper floor plan and completely scrap it. The staircase position is optimized only for the ground floor, which creates a narrow strip of unusable space behind the stairs upstairs—hardly practical at all.
Hello Kaho,
Originally, we thought that with exterior dimensions of 10x12m (33x39 feet) it should be possible to design a straight staircase elegantly. However, that is not the case.
In earlier plans, there was an open space above, which now had to be replaced by a storage room. (The strip at the top)
The southeast orientation of the master bedroom is a deliberate choice by us, as we get up early and like to have the morning sun.
The corner layout of the bathroom is difficult to change during the day, especially since it should also have an eastern exposure. And the lighting situation in one of the children’s rooms is still a concern for us...
But that’s what we are here for.
Originally, we thought that with exterior dimensions of 10x12m (33x39 feet) it should be possible to design a straight staircase elegantly. However, that is not the case.
In earlier plans, there was an open space above, which now had to be replaced by a storage room. (The strip at the top)
The southeast orientation of the master bedroom is a deliberate choice by us, as we get up early and like to have the morning sun.
The corner layout of the bathroom is difficult to change during the day, especially since it should also have an eastern exposure. And the lighting situation in one of the children’s rooms is still a concern for us...
But that’s what we are here for.
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Drasleona14 May 2020 18:11Malunga schrieb:
So, when I measure now, the distance from the end of the sofa to the start of the TV is 1.4m (4.6 feet).
Our TV isn’t very large, which we don’t really need, so we can sit that "close" to it...
I’ve planned in the staircase for better understanding Great, then congratulations, you can completely cancel the children’s bedrooms on the upper floor. I assume the space requirement approaches zero once you measure the furniture you currently have for the children’s rooms?
Now seriously: You’re arguing over small details here. With me, it’s the fight about the sofa; with others, it’s the fight about the wardrobe. Focus on the bigger picture. Arrange the entire house, thinking ahead to the future. Maybe then a children’s room will seem too small? The bathroom too large? The storage room no longer feasible because you need the space for other rooms? Then you have completely different options again.
Also, take a look at current developments in TVs. I believe that should be part of future planning and not “we bought a 32-inch (81 cm) TV in 2014 and won’t have anything different until we’re 90!”
kaho674 schrieb:
The stair position is optimized only for the ground floor – this creates a dilemma because on the upper floor there is this narrow strip behind the stairs that is hardly usable.Yes, this trick is really so simple that everyone understands it: if you want to press a floor plan against the wall right from the first stroke, especially with a pitched roof and a straight staircase, you just need to start with the ground floor, and then failing becomes almost guaranteed. Trick two – a bit more advanced – is to split the room layout for a one-and-a-half-story house evenly, 50/50, between the two floors. The real enthusiasts even add an open space above. It’s not a question of 3D, 5G, nimm2, or 16V whether the result is pleasing.
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Well, I wouldn’t exactly call this a discussion. I’m just trying to share our thoughts with you to explain how we arrived at certain ideas. That’s why I’d like to use your experience to help optimize them.
Unfortunately, we don’t have any children’s furniture yet, since we don’t have kids. But I take your word that what we have so far isn’t sufficient. I understand that the current layout won’t work as drawn. I’m open to any suggestions...
So, the plan is to design the lower floor with more space for furniture and to create larger children's rooms and a better bathroom upstairs. I have that clear in my mind and will try to implement it...
Unfortunately, we don’t have any children’s furniture yet, since we don’t have kids. But I take your word that what we have so far isn’t sufficient. I understand that the current layout won’t work as drawn. I’m open to any suggestions...
So, the plan is to design the lower floor with more space for furniture and to create larger children's rooms and a better bathroom upstairs. I have that clear in my mind and will try to implement it...
Malunga schrieb:
I understand clearly so far and will try to put this into practice... Yes, best to do it by handhttps://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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