ᐅ Single-family house with a pitched roof, without a basement – feedback welcome
Created on: 1 Nov 2018 16:05
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Milmay
Hello everyone,
We are planning to start building our single-family home next year. Currently, we are working on the floor plan, have tried several versions, and are quite satisfied with what we have so far.
I would appreciate it if you could share your opinions and feedback on the floor plan.
Development plan / restrictions:
Plot size: 445 sqm (4789 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.7
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories plus attic conversion later
Roof style: gable roof
Maximum height: eaves height 6.5 m (21 ft 4 in) on the street side
Heating: geothermal
Personal budget limit: 400,000
Client requirements:
No basement
Number of occupants: 2 adults and 3 children
Open kitchen with sliding door
Double garage
The attic will initially be used instead of a basement.
It will also house the heating system and utility room with washing machine and dryer.
Since our family plan is not yet final, an additional children's room could be added in the attic in the future.
We are planning to start building our single-family home next year. Currently, we are working on the floor plan, have tried several versions, and are quite satisfied with what we have so far.
I would appreciate it if you could share your opinions and feedback on the floor plan.
Development plan / restrictions:
Plot size: 445 sqm (4789 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.7
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories plus attic conversion later
Roof style: gable roof
Maximum height: eaves height 6.5 m (21 ft 4 in) on the street side
Heating: geothermal
Personal budget limit: 400,000
Client requirements:
No basement
Number of occupants: 2 adults and 3 children
Open kitchen with sliding door
Double garage
The attic will initially be used instead of a basement.
It will also house the heating system and utility room with washing machine and dryer.
Since our family plan is not yet final, an additional children's room could be added in the attic in the future.
The lower staircase in #52 is great: from the upper floor you call down to the ground floor, "Could you close the shoe drawer? I’d like to come down."
A typical brilliant idea from a home magazine, but completely impractical in reality. This might work in a single apartment under a loft staircase, but certainly not in a family house.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
A typical brilliant idea from a home magazine, but completely impractical in reality. This might work in a single apartment under a loft staircase, but certainly not in a family house.
kaho674 schrieb:Men should only be shown building plans once they have the official stamp on them.
After two years, he admits it was nonsense and that he should have left the light on. *inThoughtsOfMenGagging*
ypg schrieb:And I bet the floor plan can be fixed if you throw the “doorway to the passage” dogma out the window.
but I bet I’ll end up with a completely different floor plan when the house includes a passage to the garage utility room
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
And I bet the floor plan could be fixed if you just throw the walkthrough door dogma out the window.I also consider it unnecessary, but here I know that any design will be rejected without it, even if it were the ultimate proposal.
11ant schrieb:
Men are only shown construction plans once they have the official stamp Oh Thies, where were you back then when I really needed you.Milmay schrieb:
I'm glad I gave it a try here and that you are so interested and committed to this matter. Hehe, we're also glad that you are involved!
Milmay schrieb:
I'm sure we can save the floor plan. We're not so happy about that now.
Milmay schrieb:
My husband is willing to cooperate, even if he's not enthusiastic about all your ideas. This isn't a Stasi interrogation.
D
derpikniker3 Nov 2018 19:43It’s definitely entertaining with you all. And if you polish the kimberlite block long enough, sometimes a diamond emerges.
@Kaho: I’m open to the idea of an alternative design, but all design drafts go through the same six-month ordeal as the others I created for us and then discarded. There were very, very, very many points I had to consider, some of which conflicted with each other, until a tangible design emerged.
My initial, non-final thoughts on your sketches:
- Floor area ratio – Have you considered that the smaller garage counts fully, not just half, due to the overbuild? Have you included the terrace, driveway, and entrance area? According to my calculations, the building footprint including the overbuilt half of the garage must not exceed 122 m² (1,313 sq ft). This is also why I abandoned the bay window that was included in the previous version.
- Which of the walls you drew on the ground floor and upper floor are load-bearing or provide bracing? Keep in mind, there are two concrete slabs and a clear span of more than 6 m (20 ft) is, to my knowledge, rather suboptimal.
- Could you please add the square meter measurements or at least the interior room dimensions?
- Where will coats/jackets, shoes, and bags be stored? I only see one single 3 m (10 ft) closet in the hallway.
- The windows on the west facade are unfortunately not very practical. The southwest corner of the house is 2.2 m (7 ft) away from the 2 m (6.5 ft) high gabion wall. West-facing windows in the dining room on this plot have the charm of a middle house in a terrace row or a prison yard (this also applies to @ypg’s suggestion to open this room in that direction). This is why I designed the two kitchen windows only as light sources without a view.
- The path from the kitchen to the two possible terraces goes right through the house. Generally, I assume we will spend summer time on the shaded west side of the house between the garage and the gabion, as a south-facing terrace above 25°C (77°F) becomes like a frying pan. However, my partner is strictly opposed to this. Time will tell.
- What natural light sources will the hallway, stairs, and the corridors on the upper floor/attic have?
- I find the 2 m (6.5 ft) wide east-facing window in the living room suboptimal due to noise and visual disturbances from the street/sidewalk.
- Exactly where you placed the living room windows, I get an itchy rash because my back of the head is stared at from the street by what feels like a sabertooth tiger, while I only see my own living cave. What can I do, I’m a man? I don’t want to change this habit, it’s not like smoking or drinking.
- I find the shower on the ground floor impractical. I don’t know anyone who willingly changes floors to take care of business, brush their teeth, or shower. For this reason, I only plan bathrooms on floors with sleeping rooms. Since expansion is more likely than not…
- After washing laundry for five people in the laundry room you designed, where will you hang it?
- I like the idea of the master area, especially the elongated dressing room. I also like the small corridor on the upper floor.
- The open kitchen is both a blessing and a curse. We have one currently. The sense of space is great. But when cooking, the whole house suffers. Especially cooking steak in the cast iron pan is a killer here. I have set up a small backup kitchen on the terrace, which we now use more often than the main kitchen. That’s why I want to try a closed kitchen (with sliding door) this time. After all, it will still be at least 20 years before we stop making burgers and fries for the kids.
@ypg: Whether I have two 1 m (3 ft) wide windows or one 2 m (6.5 ft) wide window in the living room facing south doesn’t really matter. The narrow windows have the advantage of stretching the facade and can be more easily replicated on the upper floors. They are also generally sturdier than double or sliding windows and more favorable for structural stability. That’s why I like to plan with floor-to-ceiling 1 m (3 ft) wide windows, only narrowing them when there is no space available (see staircase). By the way, the first design posted here included 2 m (6.5 ft) wide southern window fronts.
@Kaho: I’m open to the idea of an alternative design, but all design drafts go through the same six-month ordeal as the others I created for us and then discarded. There were very, very, very many points I had to consider, some of which conflicted with each other, until a tangible design emerged.
My initial, non-final thoughts on your sketches:
- Floor area ratio – Have you considered that the smaller garage counts fully, not just half, due to the overbuild? Have you included the terrace, driveway, and entrance area? According to my calculations, the building footprint including the overbuilt half of the garage must not exceed 122 m² (1,313 sq ft). This is also why I abandoned the bay window that was included in the previous version.
- Which of the walls you drew on the ground floor and upper floor are load-bearing or provide bracing? Keep in mind, there are two concrete slabs and a clear span of more than 6 m (20 ft) is, to my knowledge, rather suboptimal.
- Could you please add the square meter measurements or at least the interior room dimensions?
- Where will coats/jackets, shoes, and bags be stored? I only see one single 3 m (10 ft) closet in the hallway.
- The windows on the west facade are unfortunately not very practical. The southwest corner of the house is 2.2 m (7 ft) away from the 2 m (6.5 ft) high gabion wall. West-facing windows in the dining room on this plot have the charm of a middle house in a terrace row or a prison yard (this also applies to @ypg’s suggestion to open this room in that direction). This is why I designed the two kitchen windows only as light sources without a view.
- The path from the kitchen to the two possible terraces goes right through the house. Generally, I assume we will spend summer time on the shaded west side of the house between the garage and the gabion, as a south-facing terrace above 25°C (77°F) becomes like a frying pan. However, my partner is strictly opposed to this. Time will tell.
- What natural light sources will the hallway, stairs, and the corridors on the upper floor/attic have?
- I find the 2 m (6.5 ft) wide east-facing window in the living room suboptimal due to noise and visual disturbances from the street/sidewalk.
- Exactly where you placed the living room windows, I get an itchy rash because my back of the head is stared at from the street by what feels like a sabertooth tiger, while I only see my own living cave. What can I do, I’m a man? I don’t want to change this habit, it’s not like smoking or drinking.
- I find the shower on the ground floor impractical. I don’t know anyone who willingly changes floors to take care of business, brush their teeth, or shower. For this reason, I only plan bathrooms on floors with sleeping rooms. Since expansion is more likely than not…
- After washing laundry for five people in the laundry room you designed, where will you hang it?
- I like the idea of the master area, especially the elongated dressing room. I also like the small corridor on the upper floor.
- The open kitchen is both a blessing and a curse. We have one currently. The sense of space is great. But when cooking, the whole house suffers. Especially cooking steak in the cast iron pan is a killer here. I have set up a small backup kitchen on the terrace, which we now use more often than the main kitchen. That’s why I want to try a closed kitchen (with sliding door) this time. After all, it will still be at least 20 years before we stop making burgers and fries for the kids.
@ypg: Whether I have two 1 m (3 ft) wide windows or one 2 m (6.5 ft) wide window in the living room facing south doesn’t really matter. The narrow windows have the advantage of stretching the facade and can be more easily replicated on the upper floors. They are also generally sturdier than double or sliding windows and more favorable for structural stability. That’s why I like to plan with floor-to-ceiling 1 m (3 ft) wide windows, only narrowing them when there is no space available (see staircase). By the way, the first design posted here included 2 m (6.5 ft) wide southern window fronts.
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