ᐅ How deep should a stair landing be? How should it be designed?

Created on: 14 Aug 2016 10:38
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Maria16
Good morning!

We are in the middle of planning our single-family house and have a problem with our staircase.

The architect recommended a switchback staircase with a landing to ensure sufficient headroom from the first floor to the attic. She planned a landing with a depth of 1.05 m (3 feet 5 inches). There are 16 steps each with a rise/run of 18/26 cm (7/10 inches) from the ground floor to the first floor, and 17.4/26 cm (7/10 inches) from the first floor to the attic (structural heights of ground and first floors differ).

Of course, the staircase requires quite a bit of space, which we are “missing” in the hallway – currently, the bottom stair is flush with the wall. That makes the hallway width 1.38 m (4 feet 6 inches), but for aesthetic reasons, we would prefer around 1.5 m (5 feet). The hallway will be about 7 m (23 feet) long – and unfortunately, this can’t be changed :-(

So the question to everyone with a staircase landing: how deep is your landing? Is 1.05 m (3 feet 5 inches) necessary, or would 95 cm (3 feet 1 inch) be enough?

Or did you let the bottom step extend into the hallway and set back the adjoining walls a bit? How did you handle the visual effect – does it still look nice?

Another option would be to shorten the landing only slightly and reduce the tread depth to 25 cm (10 inches), but that doesn’t sound ideal to me either...

I would appreciate any suggestions and would love to see pictures as well!
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Maria16
18 Aug 2016 17:04
My favorite option for the cloakroom furniture is outlined in the attached plan.

The window in the back wall can be slightly moved to the east side.

I would rather not place the toilet on the other side of the stairs; in the worst-case scenario (care situation), the cloakroom in the current plan could be sacrificed to create a bathroom on the ground floor.

Floor plan: hallway with floor-to-ceiling shoe cabinet, coat rail, and bench.
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kbt09
18 Aug 2016 19:40
Hmm... I find that tight and uncomfortable. And the green area is probably not even deep enough for towel rails. Have children been taken into account?
Also, you can turn the guest toilet into a shower opportunity here as well:


Simply build a shower recess to the left into the living area.
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Maria16
18 Aug 2016 20:17
The recess depth is already on my list of questions for the next appointment.
The seating is intended for tying shoes, not for a casual chat. Since our apartment hallway has almost the same dimensions as the wardrobe area next to the restroom, I can already imagine the design possibilities quite well.

As you mentioned, a protrusion in the living room would be unacceptable for me.
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kbt09
18 Aug 2016 20:39
I don’t find 150cm (5 feet) in less than 60cm (2 feet) depth very generous for a true family cloakroom. For me, that space should also include bags, hats, scarves, and gloves.

Also, I’m not sure if the situation of suddenly needing a shower in the guest bathroom should be overestimated. See one of the currently ongoing threads for reference.
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Maria16
18 Aug 2016 21:26
So, I actually didn’t want to post the floor plan... :-(

We have put a lot of thought into it and planned for a "cloakroom" from the very beginning – which should be larger than in many other floor plans I’ve seen here.
I understand pointing out that 1 meter (3 feet) of space for both coats AND shoes is too little. But not when you can easily fit 1.5 meters (5 feet) each for coats, shoes, and scarves/small items, sometimes even floor to ceiling.

Regarding care, I have formed my own opinion, especially because I have experienced caregiving within my family.
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kbt09
18 Aug 2016 21:28
Well, the hallway seems too narrow to you... how can anyone judge something without seeing the floor plan? People just have different priorities.