Hello everyone...
After our first floor plan attempt failed completely, we worked with the architect to develop two more ground floor versions and one for the upper floor. I would like to know which ones you find good or bad, and what you generally like or dislike about the floor plans?! Also, the pantry door is drawn a bit oddly; it won’t actually look like that...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size approximately 480 square meters (5167 square feet)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: No
Building coverage ratio: No
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 19 meters (62 feet)
Edge development: No
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof shape: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: terrace to the west, bay window to the south
Maximum heights/limits:
Additional specifications:
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type:
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 2
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office?
Occasional guests per year: family occasionally
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern building method:
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats:
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace:
Garage, carport:
Utility garden, greenhouse:
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like and why?
What do you not like and why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system:
Heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details or extensions:
- can you do without
- cannot do without:
Open kitchen, guest room, window in every room
After our first floor plan attempt failed completely, we worked with the architect to develop two more ground floor versions and one for the upper floor. I would like to know which ones you find good or bad, and what you generally like or dislike about the floor plans?! Also, the pantry door is drawn a bit oddly; it won’t actually look like that...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size approximately 480 square meters (5167 square feet)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: No
Building coverage ratio: No
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 19 meters (62 feet)
Edge development: No
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof shape: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: terrace to the west, bay window to the south
Maximum heights/limits:
Additional specifications:
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type:
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 2
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office?
Occasional guests per year: family occasionally
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern building method:
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats:
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace:
Garage, carport:
Utility garden, greenhouse:
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like and why?
What do you not like and why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system:
Heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details or extensions:
- can you do without
- cannot do without:
Open kitchen, guest room, window in every room
The ground floor benefits from having the rooms rearranged. I would suggest rotating the pantry door by 180° and aligning the utility room (HAR) to the same level as the kitchen, or at least orienting it in that direction. However, this should be done so that the washing machine and dryer can remain downstairs.
Upstairs, there is a need for the walk-in closet where the storage room is currently located. If the bed is positioned as shown, you can’t sit up at the headboard. The bathroom also requires some organization, as it hasn’t benefited from the redesign yet.
The same applies to the living room: I strongly recommend moving away from the symbolic placements of sanitary fixtures and furniture, and instead working with sanitary fixtures in their final positions and realistic furniture sizes.
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Upstairs, there is a need for the walk-in closet where the storage room is currently located. If the bed is positioned as shown, you can’t sit up at the headboard. The bathroom also requires some organization, as it hasn’t benefited from the redesign yet.
The same applies to the living room: I strongly recommend moving away from the symbolic placements of sanitary fixtures and furniture, and instead working with sanitary fixtures in their final positions and realistic furniture sizes.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
I don’t want to be a party pooper, but what’s the point of the ground floor?
- There’s almost no additional access from the front door to the kitchen.
- How is the living/dining room supposed to be furnished? It’s hard to imagine it being any worse than what’s drawn. The table, estimated at about 1.40m (4.6 feet) long, just barely fits four people, but as soon as guests arrive, it’s over, because it can’t even be extended or rearranged.
- I know you’re really keen on the pantry, but why? In your example, it’s obvious that it doesn’t provide any more space than simply extending the upper wall of the planned cupboard all the way down. You’ve been told several times by now that the pantry won’t offer what you’d expect from a traditional pantry (i.e., a cool storage area).
- The bay window doesn’t make much sense to me either, since it isn’t really used effectively either on the ground floor or the upper floor.
I would consider whether it might make more sense to swap the living room and kitchen. But that probably fails again because of the pantry.
I’m willing to accept a lot, and we insisted on several things in our own planning that others might call nonsense. But here, there are simply so many issues that I can confidently say I would never want to live in this house. The worst part is that you actually have the opportunity to do better since you’re still planning.
For a kitchen/living/dining area plus guest room plus utility room plus pantry, the house is simply too small. This results in strange dead spaces like behind the sofa or the bay window. At €2,000 per square meter, that’s an expensive issue.
None of this is meant to be harsh—I’ve been there myself, trying to convince myself of many things. I’m sorry, but I just can’t work with this ground floor at all and would prefer to start from scratch...
- There’s almost no additional access from the front door to the kitchen.
- How is the living/dining room supposed to be furnished? It’s hard to imagine it being any worse than what’s drawn. The table, estimated at about 1.40m (4.6 feet) long, just barely fits four people, but as soon as guests arrive, it’s over, because it can’t even be extended or rearranged.
- I know you’re really keen on the pantry, but why? In your example, it’s obvious that it doesn’t provide any more space than simply extending the upper wall of the planned cupboard all the way down. You’ve been told several times by now that the pantry won’t offer what you’d expect from a traditional pantry (i.e., a cool storage area).
- The bay window doesn’t make much sense to me either, since it isn’t really used effectively either on the ground floor or the upper floor.
I would consider whether it might make more sense to swap the living room and kitchen. But that probably fails again because of the pantry.
I’m willing to accept a lot, and we insisted on several things in our own planning that others might call nonsense. But here, there are simply so many issues that I can confidently say I would never want to live in this house. The worst part is that you actually have the opportunity to do better since you’re still planning.
For a kitchen/living/dining area plus guest room plus utility room plus pantry, the house is simply too small. This results in strange dead spaces like behind the sofa or the bay window. At €2,000 per square meter, that’s an expensive issue.
None of this is meant to be harsh—I’ve been there myself, trying to convince myself of many things. I’m sorry, but I just can’t work with this ground floor at all and would prefer to start from scratch...
matte1987 schrieb:
- There is almost no other route from the front door to the kitchen. I had already solved that recently.
matte1987 schrieb:
You’ve been told several times by now that your pantry won’t function like a traditional pantry (a cooler storage room). Actually, the location on the north-facing wall (the floor plan is roughly oriented south) is suitable; without underfloor heating and with proper ventilation—better than just using a window—that works. The utility room next to it isn’t ideal, but that depends on the heating system’s efficiency: if the heating produces a lot of waste heat, that’s not good.
I would still look for a solution closer to the original Eco3 design, meaning I’d prefer the staircase to turn in the center of the floor plan as there, rather than placing it against the wall in the disappointed hope that this would save space (as is often done).
I don’t like the current floor plan, but I do find it significantly "improved."
By the way: I haven’t seen any comments from @kbt09 in this thread yet...
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I agree with @matte1987: quickly crumpling up the plan—hardly anything worse than that.
I also see no reason to use the utility room as a division between the houses. That makes no sense at all.
The suggested furnishing on the ground floor should also show where there is a lot of unused space and where there is a lack of it. I don’t see a dining area for guests, but plenty of space for building blocks.
But none of that is a problem if it shows what is possible and what is not.
Best regards, Yvonne
I also see no reason to use the utility room as a division between the houses. That makes no sense at all.
The suggested furnishing on the ground floor should also show where there is a lot of unused space and where there is a lack of it. I don’t see a dining area for guests, but plenty of space for building blocks.
But none of that is a problem if it shows what is possible and what is not.
Best regards, Yvonne
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Marvinius15 May 2017 14:32Maybe consider swapping the toilet and shower on the upper floor. Otherwise, when using the toilet, you might always wonder if you really locked the door...
Now the floor plan has become even worse. The hallway is narrow, long, and very dark. The distance to the kitchen is quite far, and anyone going to the kitchen has to walk right past the sofa. In my opinion, it would be best if the kitchen were placed in the upper left corner, with the utility room and guest room located at the front, to the right and left of the entrance door. This way, the dining table could be placed in the bay window, allowing for a quiet living room.
Best regards
Sabine
Best regards
Sabine
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