ᐅ Floor Plan Optimization for Urban Villa + Considerations for Land Elevation

I meant it as a general suggestion. Don’t get me wrong, but I’m not planning your wastewater pipes for you. Just ask your general contractor or discuss it with them.

Shiny86 schrieb:

Currently, they are being built with limestone sand. Is that necessary?

Not necessary, but it’s fine.

Shiny86 schrieb:

I don’t know what to do with the office/guest room either. The window recess is also out of place... and I’m missing a coat rack or a space for a piece of hallway furniture.

All in all: a complete restart is urgently needed when, apparently shortly before completion, there are still numerous issues and whenever one tries to fix something, problems arise elsewhere.

NatureSys schrieb:

In our 70s house, [...] it was solved so that the exterior wall at that point was built with half a brick thickness, allowing the pipe to be concealed. Maybe that’s a solution.

That was a solution in the 70s, but today’s energy-saving regulations essentially prevent that approach.

Pinky0301 schrieb:

If you use drywall partitions instead of limestone, it’s certainly possible to run the pipes inside the wall. Of course, it depends on what’s above or below.

I already suggested something similar here where possible – in my view, only between Child 2’s room and the children’s bathroom.

Ypsi aus NI schrieb:

However, I find your back-and-forth changes to the floor plan at such an advanced planning stage borderline.

There is a sketch by Loriot where a visitor waits in a room that is perfectly in order except for one picture hanging slightly crooked. The visitor tries to straighten the picture, and in the end, as a domino effect, the whole room is wrecked. The original poster (OP) seems to have taken that as a model: start with a basic suburban villa floor plan — nothing special, but functional — then begin pushing one wall on the ground floor just for a few centimeters until eventually a somewhat oversized bathroom appears upstairs. Instead of simply adding an extra shower fitting to meet the need, the bathroom is subdivided with partitions, producing — at least as a fun challenge for the forum — a detailed thesis on the most original partition layout. Voila, a dead end!

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I definitely wouldn’t describe the floor plan as a dead end.
In any case, I think the bathrooms are good, especially because of the recessed wall.
For the rest, solutions need to be found without immediately questioning the entire concept.

Ypsi aus NI schrieb:

However, I find your constant changing of the floor plan at such an advanced planning stage borderline. You will never make everyone happy with your layout. One small criticism is enough, and you change everything. You should be confident in your planning?! I don’t mean swapping the bathtub and shower anymore, but at least the basic arrangement of the rooms.

These sentences really hit the mark.
And yes: I am equally not involved in this planning, but this back-and-forth doesn’t help.

Shiny86 schrieb:

Do you all find the two bathrooms upstairs that bad?

I find them thoughtless. The master bathroom is okay, but the kids’ bathroom feels overcrowded to me. And exaggerated. I would put in a combined bath/shower unit there.

chrisw81 schrieb:

So in the dining room, I don’t want to pull out drawers. We have doors there, or even an open shelving unit. It looks very nice. And it doesn’t need to be that deep either, 30cm (12 inches) depth is enough for glasses and such. Everything is easily accessible.
On the island, we don’t have any function; washing and cooking take place on the other side (exterior wall). Sure, you could have put the cooktop on the island, but we didn’t want a range hood hanging in the room, and I also find it annoying to wash ingredients and then carry them to the other side. This way, everything is on one side (with counter space between sink and cooktop), and it provides a nice workflow. On the island, we only have a blender. Otherwise, we rarely use that surface.

A good example from Chris that a kitchen can and should be more than just a run of cabinets plus an island. You have to consider how you want to arrange the different functions.
In this design, there is a lot of space for the dining area. Is a cabinet for dishes or glasses planned there? @Curly also nicely demonstrated that certain kitchen utensils need their space.
I find the practical usage planning missing here. How do you plan to outfit and use the kitchen? Where will things like appliance sequences go?

Shiny86 schrieb:

And a coatroom or a place for a wardrobe furniture piece is missing for me.

That could ruin the entire design.

You’re using a lot of space for kitchen and dining. Personally, I would find the lounge area too cramped.
From the proportions, I would rather swap kitchen and living room.
The coatroom could fit under the stairs.
Utility room: I would make the guest WC a bit narrower and longer so a pantry shelf can fit in the front area. Then change the door opening direction.
I find the staircase too dominant; I’d plan it without a landing.
The position of the carport confuses me, but I’m probably missing the background with regard to the slope.

The upstairs bedroom is very narrow, the walk-in closet takes up a lot of space without much value. Comparing bathroom sizes: I’m back to that overcrowded kids’ bathroom... why do you need two washbasins for two people?
Either you’re in the bathroom together, then you don’t need the space-consuming master suite including the walk-in, or you have different routines, in which case one washbasin is enough.

ypg schrieb:

The location of the carport parking space confuses me, but I probably lack the context because of the slope.

Thank you for your input. What exactly is confusing you about the carport?

The orientation is southwest.
I am missing the site plan.