ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house

Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
R
R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!

We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.

Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories

Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)

Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement

Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)

Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)

Office: family use

Guests per year: 1

Open or closed architecture: closed

Traditional or modern design: modern

Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island

Number of dining seats – 6

Fireplace – yes

Music/stereo wall – TV wall

Balcony, roof terrace – balcony

Garage, carport – large garage

Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.

House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)

What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.

What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.

Laundry room as described.

Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.

Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)

Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros

Preferred heating technology:
Gas

If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?

- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation

- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)

Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.

What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.

Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?

In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
RobsonMKK24 Aug 2017 17:58
I find 4,000 for the water softening system to be quite a lot.
The 10,000 for electrical work might be tight. What about satellite and networking?
We ended up with an extra 4,000 and really didn’t do anything extravagant.
R
R.Hotzenplotz
24 Aug 2017 17:59
RobsonMKK schrieb:
So, $4,000 for the water softening system seems like a lot.
The $10,000 for electrical work might be tight. How about satellite and network installations?
We ended up spending an extra $4,000 and didn’t really do anything unusual.

How is it supposed to look regarding satellite and network?

Since we agreed to probably separate out all the electrical work, I urgently need to meet with an electrician. I was given the name of the general contractor’s partner, who can also be hired independently.....
RobsonMKK24 Aug 2017 18:07
I assume the status quo.

And have you included LAN and satellite in your calculation? Both can add up to a considerable amount.
W
winnetou78
24 Aug 2017 19:05
It really is a beautiful house with nice features, but I somehow don’t understand what justifies the price, especially including the flooring and painting work.
11ant24 Aug 2017 19:25
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
When we looked at both options again from various perspectives, we agreed that the 22.5° version doesn’t really suit the house. We both preferred the 15° option much more—especially when viewed from the back of the building.

I’m repeating myself: the perspective distortion of the design scales is not comparable at all to 1:1, and from the drone’s perspective you will see the house only perched atop the neighbor’s chimney. The 15° version will visually correspond well to a flat roof.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
However, the garage would then only be 6x6 meters.

With a basement, that is usually sufficient. For S and E models, or 7 series and 5 series, or Panamera and Cayenne.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
In terms of cost optimization, full or partial brick facing will be omitted

You can also go for a simpler option. Facing bricks (slip bricks) will work fine; only full brickwork would be complex for partial areas due to construction reasons.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
R
R.Hotzenplotz
24 Aug 2017 20:28
RobsonMKK schrieb:
I’m assuming the current status quo.

And have you included LAN and satellite in your calculations? Both can add a considerable amount.

The scope of work specifies a star-shaped distribution for telephone, TV, and LAN to every living, bedroom, or children’s room. The €10,000 are for additional services on top. But that won’t cover everything. The entire lighting in the house, mainly ceiling spotlights, electric roller shutters including smart home integration, alarm system...
winnetou78 schrieb:
It really is a nice house with nice features, but I don’t really see what justifies the price, especially for the flooring and painting work.

The painting and flooring work are included in the "overall sum."

Of course, I’ll also get one or two comparative quotes as soon as the planning is finalized.
11ant schrieb:
The 15° option will visually correspond to a flat roof.

Then that works... saving €3,000 compared to a normal flat roof. I don’t mind that.
11ant schrieb:
With a basement, that is usually sufficient. For S and E, or 7 series and 5 series, or Panamera and Cayenne.

It will be interesting to see if it still looks balanced like now or if the house/garage integration is lost and the garage – as is often the case – ends up looking like an addition detached from the house.
11ant schrieb:
You can also go for less. Brick slips work well, but full bricks would be structurally complex and costly for partial surfaces.

Eliminating brick slips entirely would be purely a cost decision. As I said, the goal now is to hold the line on costs and optimize rather than increase them...

Especially since there are still some uncertainties with electrical work, painting, etc., and the planning can’t bust the budget by the last €5,000.