ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
For 800,000 EUR, you would normally get two houses. It’s pretty shocking that you can’t even pay for one with that amount.
This project seems way too risky for me. If the budget is already exceeded during the planning phase, what do you expect the final cost to be in the end?
We went over our budget by 10%. It wasn’t a problem because we had a contingency fund. Do you also have a 10% contingency?
This project seems way too risky for me. If the budget is already exceeded during the planning phase, what do you expect the final cost to be in the end?
We went over our budget by 10%. It wasn’t a problem because we had a contingency fund. Do you also have a 10% contingency?
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R.Hotzenplotz25 Aug 2017 13:18kaho674 schrieb:
Do you also have a 10% contingency?No, I thought I made that clear. So now we are cutting back.
At the moment, the brick garage is being reconsidered with regard to alternative options. But I think we can still manage it. If necessary, the kitchen corner with the corner window, which isn’t a must-have, will be removed again.
We’re not looking for 100,000 euros. But it would be nice to have a 50,000 € (about $54,000) buffer.
Although expensive flooring and similar items are already included in our budget. The biggest unknowns for me are more the painting and electrical work.
kaho674 schrieb:
With 800,000 euros you can normally get two houses. It’s crazy that you can’t even get one paid for that amount.I didn’t expect that either; otherwise I would have put the brakes on earlier. But we’ll manage. I’ll ask a building consultant later what he thinks about the whole situation. He can review all the documents.
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chand198625 Aug 2017 13:22Do I understand correctly that on the upper floor, one of the children would have to enter the bedroom anteroom if they want to use the bathroom at night? Or is there a sliding door between the bedroom and the dressing room?
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R.Hotzenplotz25 Aug 2017 13:23You are mistaken. The children go directly into the hallway and from there access their children's bathroom.
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chand198625 Aug 2017 13:25Temporary blindness. All clear
Because the house is so large, unexpected costs will usually be SIGNIFICANT as well. Simply because you have to cover every area each time. Better tiles – bam, more electrical outlets – bam, more lighting – bam. Each time, you need more than the standard. Have you also considered curtains, lamps, furniture, rugs, or similar items?
Sorry, please don’t take offense, but I always get the feeling that you don’t have a full overview because you haven’t seriously engaged with it yourself. You delegate everything. In principle, it’s not a bad idea to consult professionals, but this makes it difficult to really get a feel for the project. Have you ever thought about how many electrical outlets you will need? If not, why not? What are you waiting for?
Sorry, please don’t take offense, but I always get the feeling that you don’t have a full overview because you haven’t seriously engaged with it yourself. You delegate everything. In principle, it’s not a bad idea to consult professionals, but this makes it difficult to really get a feel for the project. Have you ever thought about how many electrical outlets you will need? If not, why not? What are you waiting for?
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